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4 WD/AWD CUV /SUV are waved on, unless conditions are deemed ALL vehicles chains required: seldom.
GOLF AWD with (whatever) snow tires are required to use chains when chains are requiredhttp://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/wx.htm##
Once you're in the city limits, nobody seems to care.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-10/auto-loan-fraud-is-soaring-in-a-parallel-to-the-housing-bubble
Just about everything you see on a store shelf came from the back of a diesel truck. If you increase shipping costs, it's just going to show up on the retail price tag.
A price increase of say a few grand per vehicle should not have a legitimate impact on consumer goods sold by the millions. 3K/1MM is a pretty small number. But gotta be "business friendly", wouldn't want to burden these heroes with onerous rules.
My take is business entities here will continue to be world competitive for @ least another generation, i.e. 30 to 40 years. People from all over the WORLD have & will continue to flock to & through here!
This area literally stands on the shoulders of "Giants of the past!" Those giants & many others cooperated & competed to make this area broad based & deep.
Governor Moonbeam may be a lefty, but even he & cohorts recognizes the above. There enters the central hypocracy issue.
But then, Seattle & other sanctuary surrounding cities are GREAT places to hold violent lefty protests! G20 conference, some years ago is a lightweight example. Yup burn down the local Starbucks, gut downdown, while using nice hotels!
Again it's the EIA.com central barrel (42 gals) of oil ratio: 19 gals gasoline/13 gals ULSD. Sure the lefties don't want diesel, but what are they going to do with it? But it even gets more basic than that. Oil and its myraid of products are literally the foundation of our modern civilization I don't see the eco environmentalists leading the way to living in yurts. It would have made Joseph Smith proud!?
Oh by the way, I have lived, slept, ate, washed, worked in tents for at least three months! So it is not like I do not know the drill.
But MB says...https://www.voanews.com/a/daimler-diesel/3959546.html?ref=yfp
Some would say NOW is a very dark time for the diesel PVF . I think this is the beginning of a diesel renaissance!
Why? For starters 1. it solves the fake problem of too much oil demand 50% diesel PVF cuts barrel demand 50 to 65% 2. It actually posts a minimum of 30% better fuel mileage 3. Lower C02 emissions
The comments show that truck people may not like the price.
I enjoyed the Rags to Riches to Rags story interwoven in the ZR2 review.
http://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/nevada_14522/ride_a4eb.htm
RE "rigged" ? VW 2.0 L 2009 to 2014 MY. TDI's!
Congratulations ! I think it will be good to be a Nevada resident!
At different stages in my life I liked Texas, Florida NV "residences".
Right now there are no advantages that I can think of being a CA resident.
sunroof
adaptive cruise
blind spot monitoring (I think)
Not sure what features are important to you, but coming from your VW (as my friend who test drove the Canyon is), you might be disappointed in what you can and can't get.
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I would take passes on 1. Sunroof 2. Adaptive cruise 3.blind spot monitoring.
I do wish cameras, such as back up cameras had WAY more utility !
@ruking1 - have you driven a car with adaptive cruise? If not, I suggest you test it out before passing judgement. My wife's Subaru has Eyesight, which includes adaptive cruise, and it's a wonderful feature on long road trips. Set the cruise, and the car automatically slows down if there is a car ahead. They move out of the way, and your car resumes the preset speed.
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What is the (your) definition of a long road trip? My sense is not many people take MANY long road trips.
As for the VW fixes. Still no word on my 2013 Touareg Gen 2 TDI. According to the document I have they have to come up with a fix by July 31st or buy back or? At this point without an extended bumper to bumper warranty I would just as soon let them have it back. I would have likely traded for a new Touareg TDI at this point in my ownership. One month left on the warranty so getting a bit nervous.
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When it comes to driving, I'm ok with those distances. However, there are times that I just go with the flow. Flow alone for me can be 150 miles to 1,100 miles. Two or more good drivers & good company can just be a pleasure racking up the miles.
However, I've done the drive from Denver to LA a few times, alone, and I've gone as far as Mesquite, NV (690 miles) in a single day.
Longest day's drive I've done (with a co-driver) was Childress, TX to Phoenix, AZ - almost 900 miles.
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Did I mention diesel is 50+ cents a gallon less. Property tax just a fraction of what I am paying and NO state income tax. I can drive 5 miles out of town, set up my targets and shoot all I want. Try that in San Diego county.
But it is hard to shoot guns outside my backyard or front door! There is an indoor range a mile or so away. The range is on one side of police HQ.
This is a good reminder, though, that I need to set up my appointment to get my warranty repair completed down in Anchorage! It's been over two months since I was there last to get it diagnosed.
Back to the two-liter models... I wonder how long until they start putting these things back on the market, and what approach they'll take. I would still like to get ahold of my 2013 Passat. If I could get it back for $15-16K (the same car), I would not even hesitate. The trick is tracking it down....
In theory, all of the 2.0 diesels can now go back into the PVF, by way of...resale. Ergo, TDI's now I have great potential for a renaissance.
If these 500,000 cars are sold at say $20,000 (pick a number anybody's number is as good or better than mine) $ 1.1 B is generated. In theory, if all of those 500,000 units go back on to the PVF, then the diesel PVF goes beyond the old 3 to 5%.
I'm further thinking the same will be true for first gen 3.0 L TDI's.
Yes. There is a Class Bridge Warranty for eligible owners and eligible lessees with Generation Two
Eligible Vehicles whose original New Vehicle Limited Warranty (“NVLW”) and/or Powertrain Limited
Warranty (“PLW”) expired/expires prior to the timely availability of an Emissions Compliant Repair, and
which are not covered by any other applicable warranty and/or service contract provided through
Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, or any third party. Volkswagen agrees to provide a Class Bridge Warranty
providing coverage and terms mirroring the coverage previously provided by the expired NVLW or PLW.
The Class Bridge Warranty shall apply exclusively to covered repairs performed by an Authorized Dealer
based on conditions that arose between (1) January 31, 2017 or the expiration date of the NVLW or PLW,
whichever is later, and (2) the date that an Emissions Compliant Repair is approved or denied.
According to our records, you own or lease a Volkswagen, Audi, or Porsche Generation Two Eligible Vehicle. Under the 3.0L Class Action Settlement Agreement, you may be entitled to a Class Bridge Warranty providing coverage and terms mirroring the coverage provided by your new vehicle limited warranty.
If the new vehicle limited warranty on your Generation Two Eligible Vehicle has expired, Volkswagen will extend the terms of that warranty for covered repairs performed by a Volkswagen, Audi or Porsche authorized dealer based on vehicle conditions that arose after January 31, 2017 or the expiration of your new vehicle limited warranty. The Class Bridge warranty will expire on the date on which an Emissions Compliant Repair for your vehicle is approved or disapproved by the Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board.
Contact your authorized dealer to determine whether your vehicle is eligible for the Class Bridge Warranty. In order to qualify for coverage, you must repair your vehicle at an authorized Volkswagen, Audi, or Porsche dealership. If you have opted out of the 3.0L Class Action Settlement Agreement, you are not entitled to the Class Bridge Warranty.
For any questions or to learn more about the Class Bridge Warranty please visit www.VWCourtSettlement.com or call 1-844-98-CLAIM.
Recall and repair, free of charge to the customer, approximately 58,000 affected 2013-2016 Model Year Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche 3.0L TDI V6 vehicles (so-called Generation 2 vehicles) to bring them into compliance with the emissions standards to which they were originally certified, if an appropriate Emissions Compliant Repair is approved by U.S. regulators.
https://media.vw.com/release/1382/
At what point do they throw up their hands and buy back our vehicles? I am not going to be happy if any one of three things occur with a fix.
1. Loss of power
2. Loss of Mileage
3. higher AdBlue usage. Unless they will keep it filled for as long as I own the vehicle.
As much as I like the vehicle, I am not comfortable owning it without warranty.
As such, the earliest I would expect to get started on the buyback process, if offered, is February of 2018. As much of the reason for this settlement was to cause VAG as much pain as possible, I'm hoping that CARB refuses to approve a "fix" until sometime after this deadline. It seems only reasonable to me that *anyone* who is a current owner should get the option of whether or not they keep the vehicle.
Regarding the fix itself, I think it is inevitable that increased DEF usage results from this. Whether other factors are impacted remains to be seen, but I think they are allowed up to 5% from the certified numbers at the time of sale. Which means, real world, possibly a large hit. From what I read on the new performance levels of the 2.0L models that were cleared for sale, the real-world performance is very similar, but DEF usage is noted to be higher (by about a third, IIRC).
My Q7 already uses a lot of DEF (seems to be about 2.5 gallons per 2,500 miles), so I sure hope that it wouldn't end up using more than that! Hopefully, this warranty repair in Anchorage next week will result in the system working as originally intended.
My first service was just past 9000 miles. At that point I did not have any indication I was low on Adblue. After that service it was about 1000 miles and the warning came on. So they did not add def at the first service. I made them top it off at the 37k mile service. I am at 44k and no warning yet. The service manager said they generally just dump in one jug so it does not over flow. It is a pain to fill with that funky spare sitting on top of the tank. I won't miss that if they buy it back. At least I don't have to worry about warranty till they come up with a fix.
I'm sure that after a bit, new chip & injector combinations should hit the aftermarkets!?
The interesting conundrum: some folks want, demand, higher mpg, etc standards; but don't, can't, want to pay for them!?
Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV said Friday it has received certification from the Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board that allows the company to produce and sell 2017 model-year Ram 1500 pickups and Jeep Grand Cherokee SUVs with 3-liter diesel engines.
The automaker said the updates for the 2017 model year include modified emissions software calibrations but no hardware changes. The company said it doesn’t expect the modified calibrations to have any impact on fuel economy or performance.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2017/07/28/fca-can-sell-ram-jeep-grand-cherokee-diesels/104071420/
I absolutely have loved the VW TDI 3.0L engine in the midsize Touareg CUV for only 66,000 miles.
TMI
Every so often, I have wondered what this TDI engine would be like with a hot tune and a twin turbo combination. The handling portion for a heavy midsized CUV has been great @ a best of .85 g skidpad.
14 MB GLK 250 BT posted 36.3 mpg (570 miles/15.7 gal)
The VW TDI's 2009 Jetta/2012 Touareg were turned in for VW buyback @ the local dealer. It was a relatively seamless & fast procedure (*2) We were told Bosch & incidental funds would follow after initial funds transfer set up. We did a final interior check (stuff left behind). & the deals were concluded.
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