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2. All the other fees look to be in line
3. Ignore the tax number - Florida taxes lease payments monthly.
4. Ask the dealer for the full breakdown of this number - our recommendation is to pay only the first payment and the non-taxable fees up front; roll everything else into the lease payment
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP of $45,295
Sales Price of $41,300
36 month / 10K miles
$475 month including tax, but I used 7 MSDs to lower the MF to get to an all in payment of $438 a month
I paid drive off cost only with no cap cost reduction, but I would say that they had a bank fee of $925 and $850 of that showed up on the their computer screen as a cap cost reduction. In hindsight, I'm sure I could've negotiated this fee down. I thought I got a good deal so I just wanted to get it done
The acquisition fee is mandatory from BMW, but you could have added that into your payment as well.
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Can't calculate a payment without the selling price and/or CAP cost.
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Thank you very much.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
61% for 36/15 - 63% is for 36/12
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The state taxes the sum of the payments and collects the money up front; Chicago then taxes the payment each month, as well.
The total tax hit is something like 17%.
Base MF this month is .00140
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Building a 2017 X3 28i in NC, returning my 2014 335i and picking up new car in Spartenburg. They say they're giving it to us at invoice, here's the details I have so far.
X3 28i w/
MSport
Premium
Tech
Active Driver
Heated seats
Apple Play
Ultracare
black grill
Carbon black
Ivory w/red stitching
MSRP:$55,813
Down: $1500
Terms: 36/15k
Payment: $686
The MSRP is less than my 335i was but, the payment is the same w/o the wheel care package I had with the 335 which would change the payment this to $732.26 if I got it. Thoughts on this deal?
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
$621/mo with those prices, before tax.
Possible the MF is bumped on you; politely tell the dealer you won't sign if the MF is marked up.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
.00140 base MF this month. 36/15 residual is 61%
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Possible the MF is bumped on you; politely tell the dealer you won't sign if the MF is marked up.
Wow, I thought it didn't sound good. Should the MF be around .00138? Residual 63%?
.00140 base MF this month. 36/15 residual is 61%
Today they quoted .00140 and 61%, where do you think the increase is?
Maybe that's not the actual adjusted CAP?
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I told him no money down but he put it there anyway. Waiting for him to resend with no money down. What do you think so far?
You'll have to give them the $1500 for the MSD, but you can roll the tax amount into the lease, which will raise the payment (and, if the payment goes over $500/mo, the MSD will increase to $1650).
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
This really is a zero downpayment lease.
The only amounts due upfront are the first payment, DMV fees and $1500 security deposit (refundable).
8% discount from MSRP and base money factor (less the MSD discount). It looks pretty good.
If you want a lower payment, you could make more MSDs and lower the money factor.
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MSRP 52000
dealer installed options: 300
Selling Price: 47400 (only 8% off on msrp is this good?)
7MSDs: $4200
Residual value: 32757 ( 63% i guess)
MF: .00111
capitalized taxes: 1404.72
Gross capitalized cost: 50278.72
Acquisition fee : $925 (rolled into monthly payment)
Monthly payment: $578.87
process Document fee: 549 (rolled into monthly payment)
Government fees (I guess Title/license fee): $89 (rolled into monthly payment)
Lease term: 36 mon/12k
Total lease cost for 36 months: 20839.32
Additionally full protect cost which covers upto $5000 is coming for $900 not added to the above costs. Not sure if its worth it.
They didn't had the color and the options that i liked on their sale lot so they will order a brand new custom order. I wanted to check if this is good deal? I live in Cincinnati, OH (Tax rate 7.25) area and checked with quite a few dealers within 3-5 hours drive. Chicago, Indianapolis. Columbus, Pittsburg area. Everyone is giving a great deal on the loaner cars (saving 2.5 to 3.5k on the overall lease cost), but the brand new ones that they have on their sale lot its only 1k difference. Its coming cheaper only in Chicago area and 1k cheaper is not worth the drive. Pleae let me know if you think its good deal. Dealer is not able to negotiate anymore so not sure if i should take the deal or wait longer to get a better deal. Thanks for your time, appreciate it.
Politely tell the dealer that you won't sign if the MF is inflated. They know what the base rate is.
8% off sticker is a good price for a new BMW.
The $900 for the lease end protection is a good deal ... for the dealer. Skip it.
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Dealer has reached out to return early ( I thought I'd have months to research next car!
I'm willing to hear what they have to say with no pressure to make a deal. What information should I be armed with to help myself negotiate the best lease deal on a new 2017 X3?
Sorry for the basic, broad question but I am new to leading and am not sure of what pitfalls I need to look out for making this transaction.
.00140 and 61% for 36/15
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I'll be in touch once I have an opportunity gather more specifics.
Also, what would I expect residual to be for a 36/10 or even 36/7.5 (not sure if they offer). I put VERY few mikes on this current lease (~12 K total so far).
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After further negotiating with the dealer below is the quote that I got.
Earlier, I was getting it for 578.87 per month for a 51,995 msrp car. Car will be ordered after i sign the lease.
MSRP 52120
dealer installed options: 300
Selling Price: 45370 (13% off on msrp is this good)
7MSDs: $3850
Residual value: 32850
capitalized taxes: 1404.72
MF: .00111
Gross capitalized cost: not sure yet
Acquisition fee : $925 (rolled into monthly payment)
Monthly payment: $514.13
process Document fee: 742.19 (rolled into monthly payment)
Total lease cost (514.13*36=742.19) =19,250 ( I have to pay title and registration fee of $50)
I am just curious if i should wait little longer for the new X3 model to come into market to get a lot better deal on 2017 models. Not sure when the new 2018 model will be in market.
Thanks.
If I add up all of your charges, besides the MSDs, I get $524/mo. Not far off your $514/mo.
The money factor is marked up. With MSDs, the base MF is .00091. That adds about 17/mo. to the payment. If you got them to use the base MF, that would drop the payment below $500/mo, and also drop the MSD amount to $3500 from $3850.
Some sort of typo on this line?:
Total lease cost (514.13*36=742.19) =19,250 ( I have to pay title and registration fee of $50)
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Total lease cost (514.13*36+742.19) =19,250. This includes tax, fees , documentation and all.
2. MF is marked up, before the MSD - net MF should be .00091. But, you may not get the large discount from sticker if you insist on the base MF.
3. Relative to MSRP, the payment looks good
4. Can't help you with whether you should wait for the 2018's or not.
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looking to lease a loaner.
how does one calculate residuals on loaners/CPO? looking to lease a 2017 x3 loaner for the significant MSRP savings with minimal miles under 10k miles/3 years.
is it under 5k miles residual is same as standard for the month, 64% of MSRP?
is it over 5k miles but less than 10k miles you multiple total miles times 25 cents / mile and deduct that from standard 64% residual of MSRP?
for example, vehicle has 9k miles and MSRP is $54,687.50 so let's say standard residual (64%) is $35,000. so one takes $35k - (.25x9000) = residual for that vehicle = (35000-2250) = $32,750 = 59.88% residual
OR
does one only take the mileage AFTER 5k miles into account (4k miles of the 9k total miles) when multiplying it by the 25 cents/mile for the deduction from the standard 64% residual of MSRP?
and to confirm MF stays as base (3.36%/0.0014 this month) for leases of loaners/CPO, correct?
thanks a ton!