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Sorry for the confusion. Is it a good deal with just drive off fees of $2000 (including 1st month) and $698 inc tax? 36 months, 10k miles/year.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
BMW X3 AWD X28I (36 Months/12000 miles)
Registration and licence cost - $480
Dealership documentation - $80
Captial Reduction tax - $242.32
First Payment - $540
BMW (not sure was it tax or something else ) - $925
Down payment : $582
(total due at signing is $2850 -sumtotal of all above)
Monthly payment : $540 (inclusive of tax)
MRSP : 51,695
Residual value : $32567.81
Car has
Technology package
Cold Weather package
Premium Package
Driver Assistance Package
Lighting package
I don't see the selling price or adjusted cap cost in those numbers - that will help us with the payment calculation.
The $925 is the BMWFS acquisition fee.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Deducting the $582 down payment brings the payment down to $550.
Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer - about $360 difference.
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Dealership documentation - $80
Captial Reduction tax - $242.32
First Payment - $540
BMW (not sure was it tax or something else ) - $925
Down payment : $582
(total due at signing is $2850 -sumtotal of all above)
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36 months / 12k per year
X3 35i xDrive
MSRP: $64,045.00
Selling: $59,562 + $500 (transport)
Money factor: 00.134
Redsidual $40,348.35 (62%)
Payment: $683 + tax
Total due at signing $2,340.49
Someone mentioned earlier that residual should be 63 or 64%. Is this still the case? Dealer is insisting that its 62%.
Also, just want to give a huge thank you to the mods here for their awesome support.
The dealer can't alter that. (and, if you do the math, your residual amount is 63% of MSRP).
.00134 is the base MF
I get $682.15+tax.
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Where is the adjusted CAP cost?
DMV and fees?
Breakdown of base payment + tax?
I'll guess that the $2000 goes to first payment and that $597 fee (doc/dealer fee?). Leftover is $648.07 as CAP cost reduction. But, also, add $925 acquisition fee to the CAP cost. See why you need to know the adjusted CAP cost?
If my guesses are right, I get $648/mo.+tax.
The 2nd payment date is just wrong. Should be 02/24
Ask for the complete screen shot, showing all the numbers. I don't see any red flags, but I also don't have all of the information.
Remind me what state and tax rate?
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CA Emailed me back today saying he will send me another screenshot with correct 2nd payment date & numbers :@
If you qualify for the fleet discount, the MF should drop .00020 - looks like the dealer marked up the MF before applying the discount.
Be polite and tell them you won't sign a deal with an inflated MF. That is costing you about $15/mo.
And, you should be aiming for 5-7% off sticker, not a lousy $1500. Target $3000-3500 off sticker. Every $1000 will save you $28/mo, before tax.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
2017 X3 s28 - Mineral White/Black Leather
Packages:
1. Xline
2. Driver Assist
3. Driver Assist Plus
4. Premium
5. Technology
Options:
Harmon Kardon Surround System
Rubber Floor Mats
MSRP = $52,010
I went in pretty aggressive, dealer countered telling me they would sell car 1% over invoice amount of $48,975 for $49,495 (5% discount).
I leased a 430 convertible in Sept and paid invoice. I asked about loyalty or return customer discounts. No go. I would have to order this car that is why they are marking up 1% since I am not taking inventory off lot.
Next they are telling me on a 36/12 lease, residual is 63% and MF is .00165. I am top tier and told them I had seen it at .00134.
Can anybody verify the MF for Jan and does anybody have any ideas on what Feb looks like? And any comments on the overall deal itself. Appreciate any input. Thanks!
Go find another dealer and get numbers from them. Get the dealers to compete against each other for your business. Then you'll see how low the prices get.
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No idea what will happen next month.
Ordered vehicles don't often secure you the type of discount you would get for a car in stock.
5% discount for an ordered unit is decent, but not spectacular. If you can get them to discount it 7%, you'd be better off.
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I realize this is not how it's supposed to be done and maybe we'll see proper paperwork tomorrow. But meanwhile, my own lease calculations are way off from what they provided, so I wonder if they're bullshitting me on the MF (which they claim is 0.00134, as cited in this forum) or playing some other game. Or maybe my calculations are just wrong, which is why I'm asking here.
Anyhow:
X3 xDrive28i
MSRP $56,470
Cap cost $52,234
36 mo / 10K mi
Residual cost $36,141 (64%)
Acquisition fee $925
Other fees $529
Customer cash $2249
MA sales tax 6.25%
Plugging these numbers into various online calculators, I come up with payments in the range of $560-575 (why aren't they same?). Dealer's number is $637.83.
What have I missed?
Thanks!
If that's the case, $566/mo,+tax, or about $601/mo.
I can't tell you why the calculators come up different. They work by asking "questions", then it's up to you to decipher the answers and put the amounts in the right spot. They seldom seem to all work the same way.
My calculation is simple math on a spreadsheet.
If the money factor is marked up the maximum, that would add about $35/mo. to the payment.
So, when you see the paperwork, look for the adjusted or net CAP cost. If it isn't $52,234, than find out why.
If it is, then they are marking up the money factor.
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Trying to figure out if it is cheaper to buy miles at .20 per vs the higher monthly payment. Do you know if when buying miles, they charge tax?
You can only purchase extra miles if you start at 15K per year. I believe those costs are subject to sales tax.
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Taking the residual reduction and higher mileage allowance is almost always cheaper, unless you think you'll only go over a little bit.
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Also, any incentives for February such as loyalty cash or option allowance, etc?
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No info on any other incentives.
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BMW has always allowed 7 MSDs to be applied to lower the MF.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
36/12k
custom build
MSRP $58,613
cost cap $52,065
$0 due at signing
$625/month
0.00114 MF (corporate discount)
63% residual
Is this a good deal?
Thank you in advance
Find out the adjusted cap cost that the dealer is using, if everything is being rolled into the lease.
What state and tax rate is this?
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Still about $250 apart in cap cost, however.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Build to Order 2017 X3 s28i with:
xDrive
Premium
Technology
Driver Assist 1
Driver Assist 2
Harmon Kardan Surround
MSRP = $52,010
Discount = $3649 or 7%
Cap Cost = $48,361
MF .00134
Most dealers were giving 6% off, but 1 gave 7% and my local dealer matched it. The coolest part is we did the deal on a Monday night, order went to factory on Tues and we picked up the car on the following Thursday. I was blown away at how fast we got it :-)
Thanks again!
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Details:
Veh Price (MSRP): 44845
Discount (4.4%): 2000 (looking for 6-7%)
Sell Price: 42845
Residual (64%): 28700
Dealer Serv: 789 (says not negotiable, that if they lower then need to make up with reduced discount)
Lic and Reg: 450
Tag Process Fee: 298
Tag Agency Fee: 15
Tire Fee: 5
Lemon Law: 2
Battery Fee: 1.50
Taxes 2686.31 (what's this based on? taxes are 7%, 6 state + 1 county)
Cash Bal Due: 47091.81
Due at signing: 2061.86
Payment: 559.56
He didn't show me MF used, but when I asked him it was not 0.00134, was more like 0.0015, but can't recall
exact figure. Didn't negotiate this down, b/c I was not happy w/ the other numbers yet.
Questions:
1 - What's the deal w/ dealer fees, should they be removed, or reduced w/o affecting the discount? That is, should I still expect 6-7% and reduced/removed dealer fees?
2 - Are the other fees legitimate?
3 - Can't quite get to the exact same tax number they got. I added the sell price and all fees and then calc tax (7%). What am I missing/adding incorrectly?
4 - Any idea where the 2061 due at signing comes from? 1st mo and all the fees add up to more than this.