2017 BMW X3 Lease Deals and Prices

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  • fs4294659fs4294659 Member Posts: 13
    What are the residuals and money factor for 2017 x3 xDrive28i at 36 months 10k miles in Texas?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    fs4294659 said:

    What are the residuals and money factor for 2017 x3 xDrive28i at 36 months 10k miles in Texas?

    .00152 and 64%

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  • bschmidt25bschmidt25 Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2017
    Looking for MF and residual for a 2017 X3 sDrive 28i - 36 mo. 12K / 15K in Arizona.  Thanks in advance!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668

    Looking for MF and residual for a 2017 X3 sDrive 28i - 36 mo. 12K / 15K in Arizona.  Thanks in advance!

    .00152 and 63% / 61%

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  • benb2099benb2099 Member Posts: 8
    Looking for MF and residual for a 2017 X3 sDrive 28i - 36 mo. 10K / 12K in Louisiana, zip 70836. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    benb2099 said:

    Looking for MF and residual for a 2017 X3 sDrive 28i - 36 mo. 10K / 12K in Louisiana, zip 70836. Thanks

    .00152 MF and 64%/63% residual

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  • benb2099benb2099 Member Posts: 8

    Can someone look at these numbers for me. I was told these were based on .00152 MF and 64% residual, 10k miles, 3k down. Thanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    benb2099 said:


    Can someone look at these numbers for me. I was told these were based on .00152 MF and 64% residual, 10k miles, 3k down. Thanks.

    1) $1300 discount is not enough. You should be shooting for 6%-7% off MSRP.
    2) That looks like the sales tax on a purchase, not a lease. Doesn't LA tax the monthly lease payment, rather than collect tax upfront?
    3) No mention of the $925 acquisition fee
    4) They show $500 rebate for the lease. Does that mean you don't get the $2500 rebate shown above?

    To check the calculations, we need the actual adjusted CAP cost, and an itemization of how they got to that number, and a payment with the sales tax broken out.

    .00152 MF and 64% is correct for 36/10, but all you have is their "word" for it.

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  • benb2099benb2099 Member Posts: 8
    Thanks, I asked for an itemized because didnt seem to add up however I ran it. Could you take a glance at this one from another dealer. Residual = 64%. Money factor = .00192

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    benb2099 said:

    Thanks, I asked for an itemized because didnt seem to add up however I ran it. Could you take a glance at this one from another dealer. Residual = 64%. Money factor = .00192

    1) Looks like 11% tax on the payment, is that right?
    2) Also, it looks like Line 21 is just for informational purposes, as the tax is collected on the payment
    3) Out of the $3000, $599 for the first payment, $339 for upfront fees, and $1786 for CAP reduction. That leaves $275 unaccounted for, but we'll chalk most of that up to tax on the CAP reduction.
    4) Discount is not quite 6% off MSRP, but not terrible.
    5) How come no rebates from this dealer?

    The calculations are correct.
    You want the base .00152 MF. That would lower the payment to $514/mo.+tax, or about $570/mo. (vs. $599)

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  • benb2099benb2099 Member Posts: 8
    Here is the itemized from the prior post
  • bschmidt25bschmidt25 Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2017
    benb2099 said:

    Here is the itemized from the prior post

    This looks really bad to me. Outgoing model, only 5% off with a $1800 cap reduction, 36 months / 10K per year, no negative equity - $571 per month? They're marking up the MF, but even without that this isn't good. I would never sign this deal. Just my opinion...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381

    benb2099 said:

    Here is the itemized from the prior post

    This looks really bad to me. Outgoing model, only 5% off with a $1800 cap reduction, 36 months / 10K per year, no negative equity - $571 per month? They're marking up the MF, but even without that this isn't good. I would never sign this deal. Just my opinion...
    Yup... With that discount, you should get the base rate, at least.

    Looks like a typo in the "How the amount due at signing will be paid"
    Should be $3000.00 paid in cash, not $2428.31

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  • 2012rx3502012rx350 Member Posts: 30
    Just received a quote on the following

    2017 X3 28i x drive

    msrp 55020

    m sport package
    lighting package
    premium package 3
    cold weather package
    convience package

    15k miles per year
    36 mo lease
    Massachusetts registration

    542 a month tax included 

    542 total due at lease signing

    is that a good deal or could I push for more?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    2012rx350 said:

    Just received a quote on the following

    2017 X3 28i x drive

    msrp 55020

    m sport package
    lighting package
    premium package 3
    cold weather package
    convience package

    15k miles per year
    36 mo lease
    Massachusetts registration

    542 a month tax included 

    542 total due at lease signing

    is that a good deal or could I push for more?

    That's a great deal.

    Do you have selling price and/or adjusted CAP cost?

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  • mj65467mj65467 Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2017
    Got an offer on a lease.

    BMW X3, 10K miles, 36 months, California registration
    MSRP: 44550
    Gross Cap: 39020
    Adjusted Cap: 37440

    Monthly payment 380 incl. tax, 1120 out of pocket for DMV fees/first payment/drive off

    Thoughts? Thanks!
  • wco81wco81 Member Posts: 594
    mj65467 said:

    Got an offer on a lease.

    BMW X3, 10K miles, 36 months, California registration
    MSRP: 44550
    Gross Cap: 39020
    Adjusted Cap: 37440

    Monthly payment 380 incl. tax, 1120 out of pocket for DMV fees/first payment/drive off

    Thoughts? Thanks!

    That sounds like a great deal. Which dealer?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    mj65467 said:

    Got an offer on a lease.

    BMW X3, 10K miles, 36 months, California registration
    MSRP: 44550
    Gross Cap: 39020
    Adjusted Cap: 37440

    Monthly payment 380 incl. tax, 1120 out of pocket for DMV fees/first payment/drive off

    Thoughts? Thanks!

    Looks great! What is it, that lowers the adjusted CAP? Rebate?

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  • mj65467mj65467 Member Posts: 5
    kyfdx said:
    Got an offer on a lease. BMW X3, 10K miles, 36 months, California registration MSRP: 44550 Gross Cap: 39020 Adjusted Cap: 37440 Monthly payment 380 incl. tax, 1120 out of pocket for DMV fees/first payment/drive off Thoughts? Thanks!
    Looks great! What is it, that lowers the adjusted CAP? Rebate?
    Yes $1500 in rebates (loyalty rebate I think?)
  • capriguy84capriguy84 Member Posts: 9
    Here’s my lease offer from Nj dealer

    X3 28i new vehicle has 100miles in odometer 
    MSRP: 52045
    selling price: 47800
    rebates: 1500 + 1000(loyalty)
    price after cap cost reduction: 45300
    upfront fees and taxes: 2780
    Residual: 33308.30(64%)
    Monthly: $483

    is this a good deal? Should I ask the selling price to $46000? Or take the deal?


  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668

    Here’s my lease offer from Nj dealer

    X3 28i new vehicle has 100miles in odometer 
    MSRP: 52045
    selling price: 47800
    rebates: 1500 + 1000(loyalty)
    price after cap cost reduction: 45300
    upfront fees and taxes: 2780
    Residual: 33308.30(64%)
    Monthly: $483

    is this a good deal? Should I ask the selling price to $46000? Or take the deal?


    I agree with the math on the worksheet, but I'd restructure the deal with only the first payment and DMV costs out of pocket. Roll the taxes and fees into the adjusted cap cost.

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  • capriguy84capriguy84 Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:
    Here’s my lease offer from Nj dealer

    X3 28i new vehicle has 100miles in odometer 
    MSRP: 52045
    selling price: 47800
    rebates: 1500 + 1000(loyalty)
    price after cap cost reduction: 45300
    upfront fees and taxes: 2780
    Residual: 33308.30(64%)
    Monthly: $483

    is this a good deal? Should I ask the selling price to $46000? Or take the deal?


    I agree with the math on the worksheet, but I'd restructure the deal with only the first payment and DMV costs out of pocket. Roll the taxes and fees into the adjusted cap cost.
    Thanks Michael. I will make the deal with by rolling in the taxes and fees.

    I just wanted to see if what is considered a good deal? Push the selling price to 46000 before the rebates is considered one? I read that 10% off Msrp is considered good, but not sure it is before or after rebates.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381


    Michaell said:

    Here’s my lease offer from Nj dealer

    X3 28i new vehicle has 100miles in odometer 
    MSRP: 52045
    selling price: 47800
    rebates: 1500 + 1000(loyalty)
    price after cap cost reduction: 45300
    upfront fees and taxes: 2780
    Residual: 33308.30(64%)
    Monthly: $483

    is this a good deal? Should I ask the selling price to $46000? Or take the deal?


    I agree with the math on the worksheet, but I'd restructure the deal with only the first payment and DMV costs out of pocket. Roll the taxes and fees into the adjusted cap cost.

    Thanks Michael. I will make the deal with by rolling in the taxes and fees.

    I just wanted to see if what is considered a good deal? Push the selling price to 46000 before the rebates is considered one? I read that 10% off Msrp is considered good, but not sure it is before or after rebates.

    7% off minus rebates is good, and you are already beating that.
    It never hurts to ask for more, but you have a good deal.

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  • sanky11sanky11 Member Posts: 5
    Hi - What is the MF / Residual for a 2017 BMW X3 sDrive28i, in SF California for 24/10?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    sanky11 said:

    Hi - What is the MF / Residual for a 2017 BMW X3 sDrive28i, in SF California for 24/10?

    .00152 and 70%

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  • radic77radic77 Member Posts: 3
    Hello,

    Thank you for all your advice. What do you think of this deal in Southern California for a 2017 X3 for 36 months and 10k miles:

    MSRP 49,895
    Residual 64%
    Cap Cost 46,150
    Adjusted Cap Cost 44,846
    Cash Down 2,000
    Money Factor 0.00162

    Monthly cost 483
    With tax 527

    MF seems higher than what other have quoted, but cap cost appears to be 6-7% off MSRP.

    Thank you in advance. 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    edited September 2017
    radic77 said:

    Hello,

    Thank you for all your advice. What do you think of this deal in Southern California for a 2017 X3 for 36 months and 10k miles:

    MSRP 49,895
    Residual 64%
    Cap Cost 46,150
    Adjusted Cap Cost 44,846
    Cash Down 2,000
    Money Factor 0.00162

    Monthly cost 483
    With tax 527

    MF seems higher than what other have quoted, but cap cost appears to be 6-7% off MSRP.

    Thank you in advance. 

    It appears that your CAP cost includes the $925 acquisition fee. If so, then your selling price is more like 9.35% off MSRP.
    ($46,150 minus $925)

    I get the same payment. .00010 is a pretty small markup to the money factor. Adds $7.68/mo. to the pre-tax payment, or about $300/mo. to the total deal.

    Have you looked for a service loaner? You might be able to save substantially, if you can find one that has under 5000 miles. (I just bought one. ;) )

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  • radic77radic77 Member Posts: 3
    Thank you for your help kyfdx.

    What I don't understand in this calculation is that the sale price is 46,150 and the gross cap cost is 48,318. Minus the 2k down and 1.5k rebate, we have a adjusted cap of 44,846.

    I know that gross cap is sale price plus any fees, but in this case it seems that the fees are $2,168, which seems like a lot. Am I wrong?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    radic77 said:

    Thank you for your help kyfdx.

    What I don't understand in this calculation is that the sale price is 46,150 and the gross cap cost is 48,318. Minus the 2k down and 1.5k rebate, we have a adjusted cap of 44,846.

    I know that gross cap is sale price plus any fees, but in this case it seems that the fees are $2,168, which seems like a lot. Am I wrong?

    Is $2000 the total amount due at signing?
    If it is, then you have to add the first payment to the Gross CAP.
    Also, tax on the CAP reduction. ($3500 X your tax rate)
    $925 acquisition fee
    About $500 for DMV/doc fees.

    Getting pretty close to $2168, I think.

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  • radic77radic77 Member Posts: 3
    Perfect, thank you. Now I see, I did not know that you had to add tax of cap reduction!

    Thank you again!
  • xxjojoxxxxjojoxx Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2017
    Hi!

    Can you tell me if this is a good catch for a 2017 x3?


    36 months
    10K

    MSRP 55,670
    Residual $33958.70 (61%)
    Discounts: $7770 (lease credit of $1000, loyalty $1500, dealer discount $5200)
    Selling Price: $47,970 (including rebates, discounts above).
    Cash Down 3,043.20
    Money Factor 0.00172

    Monthly - $505 (with taxes 8.875)

    Joe
    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    xxjojoxx said:

    Hi!

    Can you tell me if this is a good catch for a 2017 x3?


    36 months
    10K

    MSRP 55,670
    Residual $33958.70 (61%)
    Discounts: $7770 (lease credit of $1000, loyalty $1500, dealer discount $5200)
    Selling Price: $47,970 (including rebates, discounts above).
    Cash Down 3,043.20
    Money Factor 0.00172

    Monthly - $505 (with taxes 8.875)

    Joe

    64% is the 36/10 residual.

    MF is marked up from the base of .00152

    And, we don't recommend cash up front - just the first payment and registration costs.

    I think there is room to improve on this.

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  • xxjojoxxxxjojoxx Member Posts: 67
    edited September 2017
    Thanks Michaell.
    Michaell said:

    xxjojoxx said:

    Hi!

    Can you tell me if this is a good catch for a 2017 x3?


    36 months
    10K

    MSRP 55,670
    Residual $33958.70 (61%)
    Discounts: $7770 (lease credit of $1000, loyalty $1500, dealer discount $5200)
    Selling Price: $47,970 (including rebates, discounts above).
    Cash Down 3,043.20
    Money Factor 0.00172

    Monthly - $505 (with taxes 8.875)

    Joe

    64% is the 36/10 residual.

    MF is marked up from the base of .00152

    And, we don't recommend cash up front - just the first payment and registration costs.

    I think there is room to improve on this.
    Thanks Michaell.

    How would you go about approaching the deal to negotiate a better price?

    Correction on my above numbers..

    Gross cap is $51325
    Cap reduction is $48375

    Thanks,
    Joe
    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    xxjojoxx said:

    Thanks Michaell.

    Michaell said:

    xxjojoxx said:

    Hi!

    Can you tell me if this is a good catch for a 2017 x3?


    36 months
    10K

    MSRP 55,670
    Residual $33958.70 (61%)
    Discounts: $7770 (lease credit of $1000, loyalty $1500, dealer discount $5200)
    Selling Price: $47,970 (including rebates, discounts above).
    Cash Down 3,043.20
    Money Factor 0.00172

    Monthly - $505 (with taxes 8.875)

    Joe

    64% is the 36/10 residual.

    MF is marked up from the base of .00152

    And, we don't recommend cash up front - just the first payment and registration costs.

    I think there is room to improve on this.
    Thanks Michaell.

    How would you go about approaching the deal to negotiate a better price?

    Correction on my above numbers..

    Gross cap is $51325
    Cap reduction is $48375

    Thanks,
    Joe
    First, politely tell them you won't sign a deal where the MF is marked up.

    Second, tell them you only want to put the first payment and DMV costs up front - this will increase your payment, but decrease the risk of losing any other up front monies if the car is stolen or totaled.

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  • chreeoschreeos Member Posts: 9

    Hi - 

    What is the MF / Residual for a 2017 BMW X3 xDrive28i, in Connecticut for 36/12? Thank you

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    chreeos said:

    Hi - 

    What is the MF / Residual for a 2017 BMW X3 xDrive28i, in Connecticut for 36/12? Thank you

    .00152 and 63%

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  • sceptic_buyersceptic_buyer Member Posts: 8
    For 2017 BMW X3 XDrive28i

    - what is MF and RV in Bay Area?
    - I have access to BMW Fleet program which gives me $500 discount. How much additional dealer discount/ rebate (on MSRP) should i target?
  • chreeoschreeos Member Posts: 9
    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info.

    MSRP/Retail: $53395.00
    Selling Price: $50725.00
    Rebate: $1000.00
    Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00
    Net Trade: $0.00
    Total Due at Signing: $801.37
    Total Payment: $687.94
    Residual Value: $33639.00
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668

    For 2017 BMW X3 XDrive28i

    - what is MF and RV in Bay Area?
    - I have access to BMW Fleet program which gives me $500 discount. How much additional dealer discount/ rebate (on MSRP) should i target?

    What lease term and how many miles per year.

    7% off sticker, before applying any incentives, is a good target for BMW.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    chreeos said:

    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info.

    MSRP/Retail: $53395.00
    Selling Price: $50725.00
    Rebate: $1000.00
    Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00
    Net Trade: $0.00
    Total Due at Signing: $801.37
    Total Payment: $687.94
    Residual Value: $33639.00

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • sceptic_buyersceptic_buyer Member Posts: 8
    Michaell said:

    chreeos said:

    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info.

    MSRP/Retail: $53395.00
    Selling Price: $50725.00
    Rebate: $1000.00
    Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00
    Net Trade: $0.00
    Total Due at Signing: $801.37
    Total Payment: $687.94
    Residual Value: $33639.00

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    Thank you. I am looking at leasing 12/36
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668

    Michaell said:

    chreeos said:

    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info.

    MSRP/Retail: $53395.00
    Selling Price: $50725.00
    Rebate: $1000.00
    Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00
    Net Trade: $0.00
    Total Due at Signing: $801.37
    Total Payment: $687.94
    Residual Value: $33639.00

    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    Thank you. I am looking at leasing 12/36
    .00152 and 63%

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  • chreeoschreeos Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:
    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info. MSRP/Retail: $53395.00 Selling Price: $50725.00 Rebate: $1000.00 Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00 Net Trade: $0.00 Total Due at Signing: $801.37 Total Payment: $687.94 Residual Value: $33639.00
    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    it is 36 months, 12k/yr
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    chreeos said:


    Michaell said:

    chreeos said:

    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info.

    MSRP/Retail: $53395.00
    Selling Price: $50725.00
    Rebate: $1000.00
    Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00
    Net Trade: $0.00
    Total Due at Signing: $801.37
    Total Payment: $687.94
    Residual Value: $33639.00

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

    it is 36 months, 12k/yr

    What is the adjusted cap cost, with fees added in?

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  • chreeoschreeos Member Posts: 9
    Michaell said:
    Michaell said:
    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info. MSRP/Retail: $53395.00 Selling Price: $50725.00 Rebate: $1000.00 Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00 Net Trade: $0.00 Total Due at Signing: $801.37 Total Payment: $687.94 Residual Value: $33639.00
    What lease term and how many miles per year?
    it is 36 months, 12k/yr
    What is the adjusted cap cost, with fees added in?
    Not sure, these were the only numbers they gave me. I told them I wanted to put just the first payment and all DMV fees down. Should I ask them to give me more info?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    chreeos said:


    Michaell said:

    chreeos said:


    Michaell said:

    chreeos said:

    Received this initial offer for a 2017 X3 xDrive28i in CT, Please let me know your thoughts or if you need more info.

    MSRP/Retail: $53395.00
    Selling Price: $50725.00
    Rebate: $1000.00
    Total Savings + Rebate: $3670.00
    Net Trade: $0.00
    Total Due at Signing: $801.37
    Total Payment: $687.94
    Residual Value: $33639.00

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

    it is 36 months, 12k/yr
    What is the adjusted cap cost, with fees added in?

    Not sure, these were the only numbers they gave me. I told them I wanted to put just the first payment and all DMV fees down. Should I ask them to give me more info?

    Yes, you should. If they become reluctant to be transparent, that should tell you it's time to start working with another dealer.

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  • autofan9autofan9 Member Posts: 8
    my dealer charges fees as below:
    $425 - VLF
    $7 - tire fee
    $925 - Acq. fee
    $80 - Doc fee
    $29 - EVR fee
    $87.88 - Acq fee Tax
    $7.6 - Doc fee Tax

    Are the last two items normal? I don't seem to see those fee are being tax...
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 255,668
    autofan9 said:

    my dealer charges fees as below:
    $425 - VLF
    $7 - tire fee
    $925 - Acq. fee
    $80 - Doc fee
    $29 - EVR fee
    $87.88 - Acq fee Tax
    $7.6 - Doc fee Tax

    Are the last two items normal? I don't seem to see those fee are being tax...

    The acquisition and doc fees are subject to sales tax, normally.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 257,381
    autofan9 said:

    my dealer charges fees as below:
    $425 - VLF
    $7 - tire fee
    $925 - Acq. fee
    $80 - Doc fee
    $29 - EVR fee
    $87.88 - Acq fee Tax
    $7.6 - Doc fee Tax

    Are the last two items normal? I don't seem to see those fee are being tax...

    That's all normal.

    If they didn't tax acquisition and doc fees, then they would drop the price of the vehicle by $10,000 and charge $10,000 for those fees, taking $900 of state tax out of the deal. ;)

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  • wardlordwardlord Member Posts: 11
    Hi - What is the MF/ Residual for a 2017 BMW X3 sDrive28i, in 80301 based on the following:

    36/7.5k
    39/7.5k
    36/10k
    39/7.5k

    Thanks in advance 

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