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Can I get the mf and residual for 36/12k? California, model 330i.
He offered 3k discount on a $41,925 msrp And is asking for 2k down, $410/mo including taxes. Sorry didn't get more details.
thank you for your help.
7% off sticker is a good discount, but limit your out of pocket to just the first payment and DMV costs.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
There is a 2018 3-series lease thread already in place:
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/46446/bmw/3-series/2018-bmw-3-series-lease-questions#latest
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The comment about the rebates is bunk - that's not the dealers money, that is BMW Corporate.
And, the MF markup is adding about $30/mo to the payment.
Politely tell them you won't sign a deal where the MF is inflated.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Also, it seems to me this quote is for $0 customer cash down. Am I correct?
Thanks!
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CA taxes the monthly payment.
And, that deal expects you to write a check of $2248 to the dealer. Hardly $0 up front.
I'd suggest you restructure the deal to pay only the first payment and DMV costs, and roll the acquisition fee of $925 into the lease. Skip the cap reduction, too.
They structured the deal this way so that the payment would be under $500/mo.
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On another note, is Lease End Protection (approx $1200) worth it?
Skip the lease end protection - it's a good deal for the dealer only.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
36/12
MSRP: 63920.00
Price after discount: 60046.80
MF: .00151
Res: 61%
Trade: 14000.00
Owe:11682.76
NY Reg
Sales tax rolled in
Doc Fee 599.00
Acuzation Fee: 925.00
Total Init pmt: 4817.24
In this deal i will be paying 0 out of pocket and dealer is quoting 749, i get 700 can anyone help to see what is wrong?
$5500 total lease incentives - that's how BMW passes the federal credit along to the customer
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Roll the taxes and fees into the payment; ask the dealer for the adjusted cap cost with those items added in.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
BMW 2017 330i Xdrive (36 months, 10k annual)
MSRP - 53040 (premium, tech, driver assistance)
sales price - 47975
taxes in CA - 2998
total - 50973
weight fee - 24
county fee - 22
elec filing fee - 29
smog abatement fee - 22
reg fee - 392
cash down - 2000
monthly payment - 632
residual value (62%) - 32884
mf - .0019
comments/feedback welcome
Taxes in CA are assessed on the monthly payment, not collected upfront.
No mention of the $925 acquisition fee.
Basically, the numbers given are for a purchase. Other than the disclosure of money factor and residual, you don't have numbers specific to a lease.
The fees given are typical for CA.
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This is the quote, the car has been on the lot for 200 days so im just trying to get the best deal as possible.
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Thank you!
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Was wondering what the MF/Residual was for a 2017 330i 36/12 in August 2017? Looking at a 330i at MSRP $51,045 (Premium + Nav + Drivers Assistance + Msport). Since they're probably trying to dump these 2017's, am hoping to get 10% off, and then use my $3,250 3 series loyalty offer and $3000 preferred customer incentives (they can be stacked). That should put me at a selling price of around $40k correct? What should my monthly payments be in CA on 36/12 with $0 down? And how about with 7 MSDs?
If all this works out I'm guessing it would be:
MSRP: 51k
Residual (62%): 31.6k
Adjusted Cap: ~$41k
MF: 0.00126
Monthly Payment: $261 ((41k - 31.6k)/36)
Interest: $91 (41k + 31.6k)*(0.00126)
Tax: 28 (8%)
Total = 380 (will probably put $1000 down for extended wear & tear to use towards tire replacement credits since it is the M sport)
Is this what I should target? I also have the opportunity to upgrade 7 months early on my current lease and they are waiving the disposition fee too.
Thanks!
BMWFS no longer offers MSDs.
I'm not familiar with the incentives you quote. Seems a little unrealistic, but let us know what happens.
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330 monthly
111 interest
35 taxes
total of $476 / month. Would this be a good target to shoot for? and will still let him upsell me on the 1000 down for excessive wear and tear in return for the ~10% dealer discount
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You should target 7% off sticker before applying any incentives.
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Cap Cost: 33,337
Cap Cost Reduction: 1871.66
Money Factor: .00151
Residual Value: 24645
Buy-Out Price:24645
Acquisition Fee:925
Disposition Fee:350
Loyalty Discount: 750
Does these numbers make sense? Is it a good deal?
is the federal rebate normally included in the cap cost reduction, or as a separate rebate?
I'm seeing too many 2017's on these lots (literally 6 BMW dealerships within 50 miles), and a lot of them are already marked down 10%. For those that aren't mark down, I should target more than 7% still right?
Exactly how many miles are on it?
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$3000 lease credit. (bank gets the federal rebate, you get the lease credit, as a CAP reduction)
36/12 residual is 61%
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Actual Mileage 3885
If they are already marked down more than 7%, all the better.
Yes, 7% for those that aren't already discounted.
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Are the fees being paid up front or rolled into the lease payment?
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Fees is rolled into the lease payment
Total monthly at $530 (includes $925 acquisition rolled in), total drive off of $1100 (first month payment plus license, reg, doc process and tax on cost reduction.)
they were pretty close to my numbers am wondering the general consensus on this deal?
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What is the adjusted cap cost, if you are adding the fees into the lease payment?
With your stated prices, $637/mo with tax included
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NAV, Driver Assist, Sport Package, CarPlay, Heated front seats
Vehicle price 54,995, discounted to $48,290. Add $3500 for taxes, tag and doc
Texas tax is 6.25%
OTD $51,783
Lease 36 mo, 15k/yr $812/mo with 750 due at signing
I was told the MF = 0.00191, RV=59%
I can't get the math to work
Don't see the $925 acquisition fee in there.. but, that would only take it up to $725/mo.
Ask for the adjusted CAP cost that goes with that lease payment quote, and see how it differs from what you've been told. Base MF would take payment down by $34/mo.
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What's the likelihood that the dealer would provide an itemized list of all the numbers? ... similar to what I would see on a lease contract ?
I used to live in NC and leased six cars over the past 15 years. I don't remember it being so complicated.
There is no tax assessed on the monthly payment.
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A different 340i, different offer:
Retail Price 62,510
Disc: 5,000
Selling Price 57,510
Taxes 3,715.55
Doc fee 149
E-Tag fee 5
Title 33
Title conv fee 11
No trade
Balance (57,510+3,715.55+149+5+33+11) = 61,423.55
36 month lease @ 12k/year, Residual noted at 38,131.10
$1,207 down, Monthly payments would be $855.16
$2,500 down, Monthly payments would be $815.59
$5,000 down, Monthly payments would be $739.10
Is there a calculator that I can download that reflects and helps explain how to arrive at these numbers?