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Can I have March numbers for South Florida 12k/36?
Recently went to a dealer yesterday quoting $850/mo with 56% Residual on a $54,000 X3 with only first month payment + inceptions, I found this payment to be astronomical. Any help would be appreciated!
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Could you please advise on this deal on an X3 m40i brand new?
Money Factor: .00196 (dealer refused to lower)
Term: 36/12k
State: California
Hello Michael,
I got confirmation that the demo X3 m40i has 3,500 miles.
I tried to negotiate 12.5% off MSRP, $0.25 per mile, and the money factor down to .00172 (midpoint between ask and buy rate), which got me to a payment of $706.40.
Finance Manager said this is impossible, and so I am giving up on this one. I guess I'm being too aggressive. I did some research, people are suggesting 20% off MSRP for demo units.
Is my offer unreasonable? Just want to figure out whether I should pursue this car anymore or not.
I got confirmation that the demo X3 m40i has 3,500 miles.
I tried to negotiate 12.5% off MSRP, $0.25 per mile, and the money factor down to .00172 (midpoint between ask and buy rate), which got me to a payment of $706.40.
Finance Manager said this is impossible, and so I am giving up on this one. I guess I'm being too aggressive. I did some research, people are suggesting 20% off MSRP for demo units.
Is my offer unreasonable? Just want to figure out whether I should pursue this car anymore or not.
I don't think the M40 is *that* special. And, it's a demo unit - my co-host got 15% off, then incentives, on an X3 last summer (though, this was a 2017, so not apples to apples)
Dealer is trying to be greedy. Keep an eye on the inventory on-line - if it's still there towards the end of the month, give it another shot.
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Also am I correct to assume it is based on individual dealerships whether they will honor/stack incentives? For example, this particular dealership is saying they have the $2K finance incentive + $1.5K loyalty incentive. But I personally also qualify for the corporate sales $2K incentive, but have heard some dealers may not honor it (partially or entirely).
At 3000 miles, the residual will be reduced by $750. So, that's 1.4% of MSRP that you have to make up. Given that, 7% off isn't any better of a deal than a brand new one. 10%-12% discount, minimum is what I would suggest.
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What has been the highest we have seen? 15%? There was someone claiming he got offered 20% off MSPR and even a 25% off MSRP...
Could I get numbers for 12k/36. Florida.
Thank you!
The dealer discount can vary.
When you see a number that is way, way off the curve, you might assume it isn't accurate.
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2018 BMW X3
36/12K, 39/12K,
I am in Chicago. Thank you!
.00156 MF and 58% residual
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Can anyone share the March MF/RV in Maryland for:
2018 BMW x3 M40i
36k/12.
Thanks!!!
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From what I read in this forum, this does not appear to be any great deal. This is just outside of Boston. 56% residual value and no MF specified. Any recommendations/suggestions?
The numbers on the right aren't really for a lease.
MA taxes the monthly payment, so the sales tax number is irrelevant.
Also, no mention of the $925 acquisition fee.
I'm estimating a little bit, as we don't have the adjusted CAP cost, but it looks like they are marking up the money factor the maximum to .00196.
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Big THANK YOU to Michael and the other moderators. I've been following these boards for about 3 years, and learned a lot about leasing.
GLTA!!
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The quote we sent is a lease quote. The left side of the page will show accurate lease payments based on the total amount of money down, and this is based on a 56% residual, which is for 15k miles per year. The right side of the page, where it reads details is about 90% accurate. The savings is the discount off the car, the rebate is also additional savings off the car for leasing the car through BWM FS. The sales tax column unfortunately is inaccurate, and should not print on this sheet, however the software will not omit it. The sales tax is actually only paid on the percentage of the price of the car the customer is borrowing in the lease. The sales tax is based on the monthly payments, and it is included at 6.25% MA Sales tax in the monthly payments listed on the sheet. The Drive off column is combining the money down in the first column of the lease grid ($2,000) with the rebate of $1,500. The software sees the rebates as money down, when in all actuality the only money down is the amounts listed in the columns in the grid. These monies are total due @ signing, and includes all up-front fees, and first month’s payment in the lease.
Here is the lease very simply put:
MSRP: $54,495.00
Sale Price after all discounts & incentives are: $50,320.00
Residual: 56% @ 15k miles per year
· 36 Month Lease
· 15k miles per year
· $2,000 total due @ signing
· $767.22 per month (including sales tax) * Or you can put down the other amounts to lower the monthly payment
This is a great value for this car seeing as the 2018 X3 is a complete re-design for us, and is one of the hottest new SUV’s in it’s size on the market.
The sale price of $50,320.00 is very fair considering dealer invoice on this vehicle is $51,225.00.
I'm in northern VA and got the following from the local BMW dealer. What other information do I need to ask for to determine if I am getting a good price? I've asked for the money factor but don't have it yet. I am looking at the lease option. Thanks.
I did a lot of thinking, and was able to bump my payments up a little, and decided to with the 59% residual (36/10). I emailed the sales rep with a MF of .00176, and the finance manager agreed. Done deal!
Could NOT be happier with the car. I can easily say this is my dream car (realistic one lol).
Best review on the m40i's performance out there
Anyway... I'm pretty sure the money factor is marked up to .00196. That adds about $35/mo. to the payment.
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That's with a marked up money factor of .00176. I think that's where the $500 rebate comes from. They get that for marking up the money factor (which they passed on to you). It's pretty much a wash with the .00156 MF
For that kind of money, I'd be tempted to buy the vehicle. Especially since you pay the same sales tax, buy or lease in VA.
Not sure where they come up with $5000 rebate, though. I show $2000. But, they've marked up the financing by 1%, so maybe that gets them the extra rebate.
Just $106/mo. more to own the vehicle..
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If I go with lease, is that a good bottom line price?
The warranty is 4/50, so it will be the 5th year before warranty is up.
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Of course, if you only drive 12K/yr, that may not pay off.
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what is MF, residual, taxes and incentives for 60045 for 36/7.5k?
thanks
(7.5K/yr not offered)
$1500 loyalty
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Can you provide the residual and MF for a 2018 BMW X3 3.0 in Elmhurst, IL 60126 for 36months, 10,000. Just walked in and their rent charge came up to $5,000 without providing me the MF. Also, it is a demo. MSRP is 55,900 that they dropped to $51,900, but did not include any incentives like the $1,000 conquest cash from BMW. zero down 36months at 10k came out to $755. I told them to email me the MF. Their residual was 58%.
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Less $0.25/mile for existing mileage
Rent charge doesn't look far off.
But, $4000 off isn't much for a demo.
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I am new to this forum. I would highly appreciate, if you can share the money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease for both 10k and 12k miles a year.
I live in Dallas, Texas.
Many thanks and kind regards
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