Custom ordered a 2019 530e iPerformance - MSRP $53,400 w/ options & destination $73,945. Car arrives at dealership today. 36/15K lease not yet negotiated. 700+ Auto 8 score. Sales rep told me we had to negotiate once the car arrived. Current Costco member. Zip 90278. Can you confirm current MF & Residual? Also, what % discount should I push for off cap cost? I'm flexible on down payment, but if possible would love to get monthly around $800.
.00166 MF and 58% residual
Generally, we suggest 7% off MSRP.
By not negotiating the price when ordering, you don't have much leverage, unless you are willing to walk away.
Thank you and I figured as much. Pickup is Friday or Saturday. I'm going to get a competing offer and be willing to reorder with another dealer. Does BMW just pocket the $7500 tax credit on eligible hybrids and is there any leverage there to get MSRP down assuming I haven't already committed to buying the car?
Thank you and I figured as much. Pickup is Friday or Saturday. I'm going to get a competing offer and be willing to reorder with another dealer. Does BMW just pocket the $7500 tax credit on eligible hybrids and is there any leverage there to get MSRP down assuming I haven't already committed to buying the car?
How can you have a "binding" contract without a quote?
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Thank you and I figured as much. Pickup is Friday or Saturday. I'm going to get a competing offer and be willing to reorder with another dealer. Does BMW just pocket the $7500 tax credit on eligible hybrids and is there any leverage there to get MSRP down assuming I haven't already committed to buying the car?
I'm not sure the Hybrids actually get the full $7500 tax credit. But, if you are purchasing, and there is a Federal tax credit, you will definitely get it. On a lease, the bank gets the credit. Many manufacturers pass along the credit in the form of a rebate, but then that vehicle usually has a much lower residual. In this case, the 530e has the same residual as the gas model, and is more popular, so no rebates.
Thank you and I figured as much. Pickup is Friday or Saturday. I'm going to get a competing offer and be willing to reorder with another dealer. Does BMW just pocket the $7500 tax credit on eligible hybrids and is there any leverage there to get MSRP down assuming I haven't already committed to buying the car?
How can you have a "binding" contract without a quote?
Thank you and I figured as much. Pickup is Friday or Saturday. I'm going to get a competing offer and be willing to reorder with another dealer. Does BMW just pocket the $7500 tax credit on eligible hybrids and is there any leverage there to get MSRP down assuming I haven't already committed to buying the car?
How can you have a "binding" contract without a quote?
Who said, "binding"?
No binding contract. $500 deposit I can walk away from. Sales rep insisted that MSRP was negotiated only once the vehicle was received. Getting competitive pricing from another dealer today and negotiating tomorrow. Will let you know where I land.
Thank you and I figured as much. Pickup is Friday or Saturday. I'm going to get a competing offer and be willing to reorder with another dealer. Does BMW just pocket the $7500 tax credit on eligible hybrids and is there any leverage there to get MSRP down assuming I haven't already committed to buying the car?
How can you have a "binding" contract without a quote?
My bad. You referenced assuming you haven’t already committed to buying the car as if you weren’t sure.
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Dealership has of course asked me to come in to review numbers with Sales Mgr on 2019 M550. Previously you came up with $1064/month before tax on a 15k 36m lease with the attachment I sent. Do you have a breakdown on your calculations so when I go in I know how you got there? Much appreciated.
Dealership has of course asked me to come in to review numbers with Sales Mgr on 2019 M550. Previously you came up with $1064/month before tax on a 15k 36m lease with the attachment I sent. Do you have a breakdown on your calculations so when I go in I know how you got there? Much appreciated.
Never leased before. Negotiated price and placed order on 2019 M550. Considering 15k 36m, can you please provide any assistance. No lease terms negotiated.
Never leased before. Negotiated price and placed order on 2019 M550. Considering 15k 36m, can you please provide any assistance. No lease terms negotiated.
You're asking about a 2019, yet the screen shot clearly states it's a 2018 model year.
Note, also, that those prices are under a heading called "Purchase Option"; those are not going to be the same numbers associated with the lease payments at the bottom.
Ask the dealer for the adjusted CAP cost used for their payment quote, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price.
Is there a adjusted CAP I should be aiming for? Appreciate the time. I have always purchased and negotiated price for purchase. I have been reading some post and seems most are leasing. Want to look at both sides. Thanks
Is there a adjusted CAP I should be aiming for? Appreciate the time. I have always purchased and negotiated price for purchase. I have been reading some post and seems most are leasing. Want to look at both sides. Thanks
Can I get residual, MF and preferred discount % on a BMW 2019 540i Xdrive fully loaded, I'm in zip code 78732, I qualify for customer loyalty program. Thanks
Can I get residual, MF and preferred discount % on a BMW 2019 540i Xdrive fully loaded, I'm in zip code 78732, I qualify for customer loyalty program. Thanks
36/15 .00166 MF and 58% residual $2000 loyalty
Shoot for 7% off MSRP, before deducting incentives
For a 2019 530 E Plug-In-Hybrid MSRP - 62235 10K/36 Monthe lease MF = 0.00166 Residual = 60% Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15 Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49 Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27 How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
For a 2019 530 E Plug-In-Hybrid MSRP - 62235 10K/36 Monthe lease MF = 0.00166 Residual = 60% Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15 Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49 Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27 How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
For a 2019 530 E Plug-In-Hybrid
MSRP - 62235
10K/36 Monthe lease
MF = 0.00166
Residual = 60%
Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15
Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49
Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27
How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
If I use 5.35% tax rate, I get $684/mo.
Quote looks to be in the ballpark.
The sales tax rate for CT state for cars above $50k is 7.75%. So if you use that tu our monthly number would be higher then $684 is that correct.
My adjusted cap cost is 56600 Down payment 8500 Mf ,00196 since it's Ed 10/36 61 percentage residual MSRP is 61985 7.75tax Total fees 1671 Payment total is 626
Is this a good deal
Thanks
absolutely atrocious numbers. there is no way a 62k 5 series should cost that much. i ordered my 2018 540ix in august of last year, 72K MSRP, ~$1600 down (bank, 1st month, DMV only) with $809/month payment.
you are paying more for a car that costs $10,000 less, in a state that charges less sales tax than mine (8.875%). ED or not, those numbers are terrible.
right now i'm negotiating a lease for 2019 M550, and I'm getting about $100/month more (compared to your lease) for a cost that costs nearly 80K.
For a 2019 530 E Plug-In-Hybrid MSRP - 62235 10K/36 Monthe lease MF = 0.00166 Residual = 60% Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15 Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49 Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27 How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
If I use 5.35% tax rate, I get $684/mo.
Quote looks to be in the ballpark.
Michael what would be the monthly cost with the tax date of 7.75%?
For a 2019 530 E Plug-In-Hybrid MSRP - 62235 10K/36 Monthe lease MF = 0.00166 Residual = 60% Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15 Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49 Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27 How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
If I use 5.35% tax rate, I get $684/mo.
Quote looks to be in the ballpark.
Michael what would be the monthly cost with the tax date of 7.75%?
NY tax rate? That wouldn't apply if you are registering the car in CT.
And, the tax rate is a typo - I'm pretty sure the tax rate is 6.35% (which is what I used in my calculation)
For a 2019 530 E Plug-In-Hybrid
MSRP - 62235
10K/36 Monthe lease
MF = 0.00166
Residual = 60%
Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15
Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49
Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27
How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
If I use 5.35% tax rate, I get $684/mo.
Quote looks to be in the ballpark.
Michael what would be the monthly cost with the tax date of 7.75%?
NY tax rate? That wouldn't apply if you are registering the car in CT.
And, the tax rate is a typo - I'm pretty sure the tax rate is 6.35% (which is what I used in my calculation)
For cars costing greater than 50k the tax rate in CT is 7.75 %. Apprecoate what the monthly lease payment would be with 7.75
For a 2019 530 E Plug-In-Hybrid MSRP - 62235 10K/36 Monthe lease MF = 0.00166 Residual = 60% Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15 Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49 Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27 How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
If I use 5.35% tax rate, I get $684/mo.
Quote looks to be in the ballpark.
Michael what would be the monthly cost with the tax date of 7.75%?
NY tax rate? That wouldn't apply if you are registering the car in CT.
And, the tax rate is a typo - I'm pretty sure the tax rate is 6.35% (which is what I used in my calculation)
For cars costing greater than 50k the tax rate in CT is 7.75 %. Apprecoate what the monthly lease payment would be with 7.75
Looking at a 540 xDrive with MSRP (incl. 995 destination charge) of $69,010. What would be good lease terms on this vehicle for 36/10 with <$5K total out of pocket? 28211 zip code. Thanks.
Looking at a 540 xDrive with MSRP (incl. 995 destination charge) of $69,010. What would be good lease terms on this vehicle for 36/10 with <$5K total out of pocket? 28211 zip code. Thanks.</p>
.00166 and 61%
We'd need a selling price to be able to give you a payment.
Hello, I was looking for MF, residual, etc... on a 2019 X5 50i for 36 mo/12k miles. Just started negotiations and received a purchase price of 4.5% off of MSRP without any rebates/discounts.
Also, does anyone know if I have to be current Costco member to receive a discount, or can I simply just go become a member?
Hello, I was looking for MF, residual, etc... on a 2019 X5 50i for 36 mo/12k miles. Just started negotiations and received a purchase price of 4.5% off of MSRP without any rebates/discounts.
Also, does anyone know if I have to be current Costco member to receive a discount, or can I simply just go become a member?
This is the 5-series lease thread; the X5 thread can be found here:
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Generally, we suggest 7% off MSRP.
By not negotiating the price when ordering, you don't have much leverage, unless you are willing to walk away.
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But, if you are purchasing, and there is a Federal tax credit, you will definitely get it.
On a lease, the bank gets the credit. Many manufacturers pass along the credit in the form of a rebate, but then that vehicle usually has a much lower residual. In this case, the 530e has the same residual as the gas model, and is more popular, so no rebates.
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Note, also, that those prices are under a heading called "Purchase Option"; those are not going to be the same numbers associated with the lease payments at the bottom.
Ask the dealer for the adjusted CAP cost used for their payment quote, and how they arrived at that number from the selling price.
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.00166 MF and 58% residual
$2000 loyalty
Shoot for 7% off MSRP, before deducting incentives
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP - 62235
10K/36 Monthe lease
MF = 0.00166
Residual = 60%
Monthly lease inclusive of Tax (CT State zip 06851, dealer in NY) - 675.15
Reg + Doc Fee + Bank Fee + Tax on rebate = $1690.49
Net Adjusted Cap Cost = 54967.27
How do the numbers above look for a 2019.
Quote looks to be in the ballpark.
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you are paying more for a car that costs $10,000 less, in a state that charges less sales tax than mine (8.875%). ED or not, those numbers are terrible.
right now i'm negotiating a lease for 2019 M550, and I'm getting about $100/month more (compared to your lease) for a cost that costs nearly 80K.
Here’s what I could figure out from the sample offer for a 2019 M550i (30K miles, 3 years):
MSRP: $77,145
Selling Price: $76,110 (reflects a discount of $1035)
Residual: 47,058 (=61%)
Money Factor: 0.00167 (=4% interest rate)
Monthly Payment: $909
Paid at inception: $5334 (see break down below)
Acquisition fee: $925
Cap cost reduction: $3500
First Month Payment: $909
This should be your starting point for negotiation. Don’t forget to factor in BMW incentives to sweeten the deal!
Hope this helps.
And, the tax rate is a typo - I'm pretty sure the tax rate is 6.35% (which is what I used in my calculation)
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
MSRP - $58835
Selling Price: $50135
Residual: $32,837
MF: 0.00166
18K miles a year, 36 months, $3500 total out of pocket.
Monthly payment with NY tax - $689 month
Is this a good deal??
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$693/mo
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No lease incentives
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We'd need a selling price to be able to give you a payment.
Why put up so much cash on a lease?
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Assuming 1st payment and all other fees/charges upfront
(without any further CAP reduction)
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I was looking for MF, residual, etc... on a 2019 X5 50i for 36 mo/12k miles.
Just started negotiations and received a purchase price of 4.5% off of MSRP without any rebates/discounts.
Also, does anyone know if I have to be current Costco member to receive a discount, or can I simply just go become a member?
https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/46962/bmw/x5/2018-bmw-x5-lease-deals-and-prices#latest
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Can you help me with money factor, residual, target % off msrp, rebates/discounts, etc?
Also, what would those numbers look like for European Delivery?
Thanks much!
No lease cash
7% off MSRP
Add .00030 to MF, but waive the 2nd payment for ED
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530i RWD 10kmiles/36months
530i AWD 10kmiles/36months
Zip code: 33020 (Florida)
61% residual
either drive
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Can you please give me the MF and the Residual Factor for
2019 530i xDrive Sedan- Executive Tier - 61,650
Luxury Design
2019 530i Xdrive Sedan MSRP - 60,750
M Sport
10k/36 Months
.00166 MF and 61% residual
Either trim
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Need ZIP to check for incentives
2018 discussion is here:
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