Hi @Michaell, I'm about to lease my 5th Infiniti, and would like to know the February Residual, MF & MSD info on a Q60 RS AWD 12k/24mo please. Thanks in advance!
Hi @Michaell, I'm about to lease my 5th Infiniti, and would like to know the February Residual, MF & MSD info on a Q60 RS AWD 12k/24mo please. Thanks in advance!
Hi @Michaell, I'm about to lease my 5th Infiniti, and would like to know the February Residual, MF & MSD info on a Q60 RS AWD 12k/24mo please. Thanks in advance!
.00024 MF and 61% residual.
39 month residual is 55%
Thank you @kyfxd. That MF converts to .576% - I'm liking what I'm hearing:) .Would you be able to share the MSD info as well please?
Hi @Michaell, I'm about to lease my 5th Infiniti, and would like to know the February Residual, MF & MSD info on a Q60 RS AWD 12k/24mo please. Thanks in advance!
.00024 MF and 61% residual.
39 month residual is 55%
Thank you @kyfxd. Would you be able to share the MSD info as well?
Infiniti allows up to 9 MSDs at a discount of .00010 to the money factor for each one.
But, with an MF of .00024, you'd only be able to make two MSDs, bringing the MF down to .00004
Thanks again for the info @kyfxd. Even with the low MF, this vehicle comparatively has gone up over $200/mo since I last leased an AWD coupe. I'm month-to-month now, but am going to hold off to see if the usual customer/loyalty cash incentives program is available again this Spring, so will check back here in another month or so.
@killacam327 , I trust a 3.0T would price closer, but going down to 300HP still tastes like sour apple. The difference in the MSRP's of a fully loaded previous G-gen vs a current Q-gen with just a premium package are not that significant compared to the overall lease cost's between the two right now. Rebates may make a small difference, but I'm not expecting the residuals will move.
@radtrax Its 300 HP but it actually makes more torque and the same power as the 3.7L
I agree tho, prices have definitely been bumped up and the Red Sport coupe is borderline out of my budget, but i refuse to grab a coupe with the same power. The Red Sport is dramatically much more powerful and way more fun to drive. I am hoping that for March, (Infiniti's fiscal year end), there will be more incentives on the Red Sport.
From the grapevine I heard that the Red Sports are sitting on lots, and not selling nowhere near the intended goal, to the point that Infiniti has put a pause on production of Red Sports.
Completely with you @killcam327 on refusing to go down on horsepower. Why Infiniti went to market with a less powerful 3.0T (base) is as beyond my understanding as their 'Q' model naming convention. Even though the 3.0T engine pulls harder with more torque than the previous generation 3.7L, most customers will primarily focus on the overall horsepower produced.
Listing the performance for their current and previous two generation V6 engines. G35 3.5L 306hp/268lb-ft G37 3.7L 330hp/258lb-ft Q60 3.0L 300hp/295lb-ft Q60 RS 3.0L 400hp/350lb-ft
I've leased a RWD 3.5L Sedan, a RWD 3.7L Anv Ed Sedan w/ 4-wheel Steering, a 3.7L AWD Coupe, and a 3.7L RWD Coupe. Looking to lease a AWD RS Coupe with Napa Red interior next.
The only thing that now has me concerned about waiting is if Infiniti is going to have Napa Red trim available or not going forward. Before the 2016 came out, it was only available in the Anv Edition & IPL. Now, the Napa Red trim is not available as an option anymore on their website build tool for the Q60.
Completely with you @killcam327 on refusing to go down on horsepower. Why Infiniti went to market with a less powerful 3.0T (base) is as beyond my understanding as their 'Q' model naming convention. Even though the 3.0T engine pulls harder with more torque than the previous generation 3.7L, most customers will primarily focus on the overall horsepower produced.
I am not a car geek by any measure, but I do love my Infinitis as can be seen by my signature. Having turned in my '14 330 HP Q50 in December for a '17 Q60 3.0t I guess I can speak to the matter a bit. Yes, I was not happy about the drop of 30 HP, but I didn't want to pay $100 more in a lease payment for the RS. But once I got in the car I realized I feel zero difference in 0 to 60 times. However the acceleration when driving down the freeway is awesome. In fact the first couple of time I punched it on the freeway it was kind of shocking on how quickly the car accelerated.
2005 G35 Sedan 2007 G35 Sedan 2008 G37 Sedan 2010 G37 Coupe 2012 G37 Sedan 2014 Q50 RWD 2017 Q60 3.0t RWD 2018 QX60 RWD
Like the feedback @kingpcgeek. I've been very pleased with the Infititi's I've leased, too. Both of my favorites (the AWD coupe and the Anv Ed sedan) were involved in accidents. Otherwise, I would have ended buying them at end of lease term. I've been particularly impressed with the 7-speed trans and the cornering of both the AWD & 4-wheel steering systems, versus my first 5-speed and current RWD models.
Anyways, I'd be happy with a $50-100 increase in monthy payment going to a Q60 RS, but according to my calculations, it would be alot more than what I'm paying now.
Below is pretty close to how my final deal worked out on my current 2014 Q60 RWD. I payed the TTL+ Doc fees upfront (taken out of deposit). Either the dealer fee was ~$100 higher or there were some accessories that bumped my payment up ~$5/mo, so I ended up otd with a $470.60/mo payment.
2014 Q60 RWD (Sport, Prem, Nav) 10k/24mo/0down .00007 MF/.168% 67% RV MSRP $49,680 Invoice $46,167 Dealer $595 Acquisition $700 Incentives ($4250) Cap Cost $43,617 TTL $265 MF/Rate .00007 or .168% RV 33286 or 67% of MSRP Monthy Payment $466.35
First thing to notice is that the residual value for a 2014 RWD was 67% (an AWD would have been 68%), which is alot better than the 2017 RS AWD. The MSRP of a 2017 RS AWD is ~$6800 more, but at that time there was also $4250 of incentives for the 2014 which significantly lowered the Cap Cost below invoice, and ~$10k lower than a 2017 RS. The incentives that netted a lower Cap Cost price, along with the higher residual value, is what made the 2014 deal a heck of alot sweeter than what's available now for an RS.
My current calculation on a 2017 Q60 RS AWD w/ Premium Package looks something this. MSRP $56,455 Invoice $52,567 Dealer $595 Acquisition $700 Incentives ($0) Cap Cost $53,863 MF/Rate .00024 or .567% TTL $250 RV $34,438 or 61% of MSRP (24mo/10k/0down) Pre-tax Monthly Payment $860 RV $34,438 or 62% of MSRP (24mo/12k/0down) Pre-tax Monthly Payment $836
Anyone know for certain if the napa red interior is available still or not for the 2017 Q60? Noticed you can't add it as an option on the website anymore, but it's still in the gallery.
It's sad to see Inifiniti nickel and dime on so many options. I wish they would simplify it. Although they make you pretty much get every option if you choose the tech package LOL
The darn Civic has remote start on most trims. Wish they included it standard on 2.0T premium and 3.0T premium models.
It's sad to see Inifiniti nickel and dime on so many options. I wish they would simplify it. Although they make you pretty much get every option if you choose the tech package LOL
The darn Civic has remote start on most trims. Wish they included it standard on 2.0T premium and 3.0T premium models.
Lots of luxury brands are like that. A loaded Sonata or Accord has more standard features than most comparable cars from MB, BMW, Lexus, Infiniti, etc.
yea, and these luxury brands are so quick to show their low base price on ads :P
I happened to be at my local Infiniti dealer last week, just looking around. They have 1 QX30 base with a $30K MSRP; the rest of the stock had sticker prices of upper 30's to low 40's.
Salesman flat out told me that the $30K unit was for ads.
Hi there,
Dealer quoting me $637/month plus tax for 2017 Q60 3.0t Premium RWD. MSRP $48K with MF of .00048 and Residual of 54%.
The price seems very high for a $48K MSRP car. What should i be expecting to pay?
.00048 MF and 54% residual is correct for 39/15.
What is the selling price and/or adjusted CAP cost?
How much due at signing.
Cap cost: $48,905. $0 down.
Another dealer offered me $45,305 capcost with 55% residual and .00081 MF. with monthly payment of $671 for 36/15.
What should i be looking to pay with $0 down and $0 MSD. I will decide on MSD after i've received a final quote from them.
What state is this, that the cap cost is the same as, or higher than, the MSRP?
I am in South Florida. Can't seem to get a good deal from any dealer or broker. What should I expect to pay for 17 Q60 Premium $48k msrp? $1500 down including first month payment. I'm being quoted north of $615 for 15kmiles for 39months. Seems very high.
Dealer quoting me $637/month plus tax for 2017 Q60 3.0t Premium RWD. MSRP $48K with MF of .00048 and Residual of 54%.
The price seems very high for a $48K MSRP car. What should i be expecting to pay?
.00048 MF and 54% residual is correct for 39/15.
What is the selling price and/or adjusted CAP cost? How much due at signing.
Cap cost: $48,905. $0 down.
Another dealer offered me $45,305 capcost with 55% residual and .00081 MF. with monthly payment of $671 for 36/15.
What should i be looking to pay with $0 down and $0 MSD. I will decide on MSD after i've received a final quote from them.
What state is this, that the cap cost is the same as, or higher than, the MSRP?
I am in South Florida. Can't seem to get a good deal from any dealer or broker. What should I expect to pay for 17 Q60 Premium $48k msrp? $1500 down including first month payment. I'm being quoted north of $615 for 15kmiles for 39months. Seems very high.
The biggest determining factor in the lease payment is the negotiated price. Use the "make / model / year" pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools. Your goal is to be the TMV price for your zip code.
hi just got back from the dealer, wasn't extremely helpful w/ numbers.
2017 q60 red sport awd, 15k/39 mo msrp $61,955 premium plus package $2,250 driver assistance package $2,250 illuminated kick plates $400 technology package $1,850 direct adaptive steering $1000
car sale price $57,000 $2k down payment monthly payment $695 (with nyc tax included 8.875 percent)
is this a good deal?
.00024 MF and 53% residual
The adjusted CAP cost would have to be about $59,100 to get that payment. If you are paying $2000 upfront, that's $3400 to be accounted for, outside of the sale price.
$700 acquisition fee $2100 tax $300 DMV/Doc fee?
That's only about $300 off..
Doesn't look like they are taking any liberties. If you are happy with the sale price, then the numbers are close.
I'm looking at getting a new 2017 Q 60 Red Sport RWD. 39/10k and was wondering if someone can help with the numbers. It seems like the dealer is rolling all the fees into the lease. If I pay Doc Fees, Acquisition, License/Registration "Up front costs" should this reduce my monthly payment? I would like to get a monthly payment under $600 with no down payment and just paying upfront costs.
It appears they also marked up the money factor, but not as bad as some other quotes I got.
Quote from dealer- MSRP-54,855 The fees added to the price of the car of $48,855 are as follow. Doc Fees, $499 Aqu Fees, $700 License and Registration $830 Dealer added accessories plus tax $1146 ( these are deducted from the Cap Cost but because they are added to the car and do get residualized they have to show separately on the deal) That makes a total of $3175 Residual is 57% money factor .00075 Tax 8.1 Monthly Payment including tax $643 with Zero down.
I'm looking at getting a new 2017 Q 60 Red Sport RWD. 39/10k and was wondering if someone can help with the numbers. It seems like the dealer is rolling all the fees into the lease. If I pay Doc Fees, Acquisition, License/Registration "Up front costs" should this reduce my monthly payment? I would like to get a monthly payment under $600 with no down payment and just paying upfront costs.
It appears they also marked up the money factor, but not as bad as some other quotes I got.
Quote from dealer- MSRP-54,855 The fees added to the price of the car of $48,855 are as follow. Doc Fees, $499 Aqu Fees, $700 License and Registration $830 Dealer added accessories plus tax $1146 ( these are deducted from the Cap Cost but because they are added to the car and do get residualized they have to show separately on the deal) That makes a total of $3175 Residual is 57% money factor .00075 Tax 8.1 Monthly Payment including tax $643 with Zero down.
39/10 Q60 Red Sport RWD - .00041 and 57%
We do recommend rolling in the doc and bank fees into the lease payment - limit your out of pocket to the first payment and license / reg costs only. But, you are welcome to pay those costs up front, if you like.
Dealer installed accessories (that are not part of the window sticker) are not residualized - you pay 100% of that cost over the lease term (almost $30/mo)
If the selling price is the cap cost, and I use the base MF, I get $523/mo with tax included.
Thanks. How did they come up with $643/month and you calculated $523. I know you used the base MF and the dealer used .00075. I'm trying to figure out how they got their number and what I should negotiate or ask them about besides the MF so I can get to the 523/month or close to.
Thanks. How did they come up with $643/month and you calculated $523. I know you used the base MF and the dealer used .00075. I'm trying to figure out how they got their number and what I should negotiate or ask them about besides the MF so I can get to the 523/month or close to.
I used the $48,855 as the cap cost - assumed you would pay all the fees and such up front. The $3125 works out to about $80/mo. The rest is the MF markup.
Is this a good deal or should I try negotiating more? I dont have the exact break down of all the numbers but its closer to the $523 a month that you calculated with paying $3125 upfront. MF .00041/MF 57% $2000 out the door including first months payment. $569 a month including tax
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Is there any Infiniti Loyalty money or other Loyalty program benefits for January?
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We don't have Infiniti incentive info.
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Looking at leasing a 2017 Q60 Red Sport RWD and working on my research.
What are the most current MF and Residual?
Also, just to clarify, infiniti numbers do not change by state right?
.00029 and 54% for 39 months, 15,000 miles per year.
The Infiniti numbers are national.
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How about MF and Residual for 2017 Q60 Red Sport RWD 39month/10K ?
Thanks again!
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39 month residual is 55%
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Infiniti allows up to 9 MSDs at a discount of .00010 to the money factor for each one.
But, with an MF of .00024, you'd only be able to make two MSDs, bringing the MF down to .00004
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If you were to price out a 3.0T Sport (Non RedSport) , it will come out much closer in pricing.
I agree tho, prices have definitely been bumped up and the Red Sport coupe is borderline out of my budget, but i refuse to grab a coupe with the same power. The Red Sport is dramatically much more powerful and way more fun to drive. I am hoping that for March, (Infiniti's fiscal year end), there will be more incentives on the Red Sport.
From the grapevine I heard that the Red Sports are sitting on lots, and not selling nowhere near the intended goal, to the point that Infiniti has put a pause on production of Red Sports.
Listing the performance for their current and previous two generation V6 engines.
G35 3.5L 306hp/268lb-ft
G37 3.7L 330hp/258lb-ft
Q60 3.0L 300hp/295lb-ft
Q60 RS 3.0L 400hp/350lb-ft
I've leased a RWD 3.5L Sedan, a RWD 3.7L Anv Ed Sedan w/ 4-wheel Steering, a 3.7L AWD Coupe, and a 3.7L RWD Coupe. Looking to lease a AWD RS Coupe with Napa Red interior next.
The only thing that now has me concerned about waiting is if Infiniti is going to have Napa Red trim available or not going forward. Before the 2016 came out, it was only available in the Anv Edition & IPL. Now, the Napa Red trim is not available as an option anymore on their website build tool for the Q60.
2005 G35 Sedan2007 G35 Sedan
2008 G37 Sedan
2010 G37 Coupe
2012 G37 Sedan
2014 Q50 RWD
2017 Q60 3.0t RWD
2018 QX60 RWD
Anyways, I'd be happy with a $50-100 increase in monthy payment going to a Q60 RS, but according to my calculations, it would be alot more than what I'm paying now.
Below is pretty close to how my final deal worked out on my current 2014 Q60 RWD. I payed the TTL+ Doc fees upfront (taken out of deposit). Either the dealer fee was ~$100 higher or there were some accessories that bumped my payment up ~$5/mo, so I ended up otd with a $470.60/mo payment.
2014 Q60 RWD (Sport, Prem, Nav)
10k/24mo/0down
.00007 MF/.168% 67% RV
MSRP $49,680
Invoice $46,167
Dealer $595
Acquisition $700
Incentives ($4250)
Cap Cost $43,617
TTL $265
MF/Rate .00007 or .168%
RV 33286 or 67% of MSRP
Monthy Payment $466.35
First thing to notice is that the residual value for a 2014 RWD was 67% (an AWD would have been 68%), which is alot better than the 2017 RS AWD. The MSRP of a 2017 RS AWD is ~$6800 more, but at that time there was also $4250 of incentives for the 2014 which significantly lowered the Cap Cost below invoice, and ~$10k lower than a 2017 RS. The incentives that netted a lower Cap Cost price, along with the higher residual value, is what made the 2014 deal a heck of alot sweeter than what's available now for an RS.
My current calculation on a 2017 Q60 RS AWD w/ Premium Package looks something this.
MSRP $56,455
Invoice $52,567
Dealer $595
Acquisition $700
Incentives ($0)
Cap Cost $53,863
MF/Rate .00024 or .567%
TTL $250
RV $34,438 or 61% of MSRP (24mo/10k/0down)
Pre-tax Monthly Payment $860
RV $34,438 or 62% of MSRP (24mo/12k/0down)
Pre-tax Monthly Payment $836
Anyone know for certain if the napa red interior is available still or not for the 2017 Q60? Noticed you can't add it as an option on the website anymore, but it's still in the gallery.
Pre-tax Monthly Payment $836
(Corrected RV - Sorry all, my bad!!)
Dealer quoting me $637/month plus tax for 2017 Q60 3.0t Premium RWD. MSRP $48K with MF of .00048 and Residual of 54%.
The price seems very high for a $48K MSRP car. What should i be expecting to pay?
What is the selling price and/or adjusted CAP cost?
How much due at signing.
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Another dealer offered me $45,305 capcost with 55% residual and .00081 MF. with monthly payment of $671 for 36/15.
What should i be looking to pay with $0 down and $0 MSD. I will decide on MSD after i've received a final quote from them.
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Let me narrow it down a little bit....
all AWD models of 2.0T and 3.0T
I'll be leasing in the midwest so they typically only carry AWD models.
Thank you.
2.0T base - .00045 and 64%
2.0T premium - .00018 and 62%
3.0T premium - .00029 and 62%
3.0T sport - .00027 and 62%
Red Sport - .00024 and 62%
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The darn Civic has remote start on most trims. Wish they included it standard on 2.0T premium and 3.0T premium models.
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Salesman flat out told me that the $30K unit was for ads.
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The biggest determining factor in the lease payment is the negotiated price. Use the "make / model / year" pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools. Your goal is to be the TMV price for your zip code.
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2017 q60 red sport awd, 15k/39 mo
msrp $61,955
premium plus package $2,250
driver assistance package $2,250
illuminated kick plates $400
technology package $1,850
direct adaptive steering $1000
car sale price $57,000
$2k down payment
monthly payment $695 (with nyc tax included 8.875 percent)
is this a good deal?
The adjusted CAP cost would have to be about $59,100 to get that payment.
If you are paying $2000 upfront, that's $3400 to be accounted for, outside of the sale price.
$700 acquisition fee
$2100 tax
$300 DMV/Doc fee?
That's only about $300 off..
Doesn't look like they are taking any liberties. If you are happy with the sale price, then the numbers are close.
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It appears they also marked up the money factor, but not as bad as some other quotes I got.
Quote from dealer-
MSRP-54,855
The fees added to the price of the car of $48,855 are as follow.
Doc Fees, $499
Aqu Fees, $700
License and Registration $830
Dealer added accessories plus tax $1146 ( these are deducted from the Cap Cost but because they are added to the car and do get residualized they have to show separately on the deal)
That makes a total of $3175
Residual is 57% money factor .00075
Tax 8.1
Monthly Payment including tax $643 with Zero down.
We do recommend rolling in the doc and bank fees into the lease payment - limit your out of pocket to the first payment and license / reg costs only. But, you are welcome to pay those costs up front, if you like.
Dealer installed accessories (that are not part of the window sticker) are not residualized - you pay 100% of that cost over the lease term (almost $30/mo)
If the selling price is the cap cost, and I use the base MF, I get $523/mo with tax included.
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MF .00041/MF 57%
$2000 out the door including first months payment.
$569 a month including tax