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Would the Inscription AWD be a 53% residual for a 36 month $10,000 residual then? Does the $2000 lease bonus include a loyalty bonus. I just bought a used 2013 Volvo from this dealer and they said I would also be entitled to a loyalty bonus of $1,000.00.
Would the Inscription AWD be a 53% residual for a 36 month $10,000 residual then? Does the $2000 lease bonus include a loyalty bonus. I just bought a used 2013 Volvo from this dealer and they said I would also be entitled to a loyalty bonus of $1,000.00.
Yes, 10K allowance residual would be 53%.
Loyalty is a separate incentive from the lease bonus - they should combine.
I have two offers from a dealer and i am sorry i do not have the final number, as they were given to me verbally, and I forgot the exact number. The deals are;
A T5 Inscription FWD 6 grand off MSRP which was in the 54500 range, 39 months, 12K miles, MF of 00026. Something like 635 a month including taxes.
They also gave me an offer of a T6 Inscription AWD, 9K off a 62,200 MSRP, of which 600 of the MSRP was for LoJac, I likely can refuse the Lojac and save an additional 600 bucks. That price was in the 650 range I believe.
Do these numbers sound like a deal? I surprised by the amount they are willing to take off which then has me concerned there is something I am missing. Sorry, lack of trust with the car industry
I have two offers from a dealer and i am sorry i do not have the final number, as they were given to me verbally, and I forgot the exact number. The deals are;
A T5 Inscription FWD 6 grand off MSRP which was in the 54500 range, 39 months, 12K miles, MF of 00026. Something like 635 a month including taxes.
They also gave me an offer of a T6 Inscription AWD, 9K off a 62,200 MSRP, of which 600 of the MSRP was for LoJac, I likely can refuse the Lojac and save an additional 600 bucks. That price was in the 650 range I believe.
Do these numbers sound like a deal? I surprised by the amount they are willing to take off which then has me concerned there is something I am missing. Sorry, lack of trust with the car industry
T5 is .00006 MF T6 is .00020 MF
Both models have a $2000 lease incentive.
Those are big discounts, but the residuals are down around 50%, so it takes a big discount to get a decent lease payment.
I am very confused here. So if I can get some help? The following are the numbers given to me by the dealership, for some reason when I put them into a lease calculator I do not come up with the same numbers the dealer does. I have used multiple calculators. some are within just a dollar or two, others as much as 50 dollars off.
T5 Inscription MSRP - 57655 Sales Price 52000 With docs and varies other fees to include tax total cash price is 57107. Residual is 29754 39 / 12K Lease is 709.05 per month including taxes. the CA tax rate is 9.75.
does this seem like accurate numbers, and is it a fair deal?
I am very confused here. So if I can get some help? The following are the numbers given to me by the dealership, for some reason when I put them into a lease calculator I do not come up with the same numbers the dealer does. I have used multiple calculators. some are within just a dollar or two, others as much as 50 dollars off.
T5 Inscription MSRP - 57655 Sales Price 52000 With docs and varies other fees to include tax total cash price is 57107. Residual is 29754 39 / 12K Lease is 709.05 per month including taxes. the CA tax rate is 9.75.
does this seem like accurate numbers, and is it a fair deal?
You can't use the cash price to calculate a lease. Taxes in CA are paid on the lease payment, not collected upfront. You need the adjusted CAP cost.
Thoughts on this S90 advertised lease? They are advertising 499/month 499 due at signing (plus taxes, tags and doc fee). I'm in PA. Assuming the same sale price, what would total due at signing and final monthly payment be if I need 15k/year?'
VIN H1004640. Stk VOH0169. 4DR, 4-cylinder, 8-speed Automatic,mileage: 37 mi., air conditioning, power steering/ABS brakes/windows/locks/mirrors, cd/MP3, vision/climate/convenience package. MSRP: $59,205. $499 due at inception. $0 down + 1st mo pymt $499+ bank fee incl. + $0 sec dep. $19,461 ttl pymts/$30,194 residual. Prices include all costs to be paid by a consumer except for licensing, registration, taxes, and $299 doc. fee. Tier 1 credit approval thru primary lender. Lessee resp. for excess wear/tear. 10K mi. per yr/.25¢ per mi. over thereafter. See dealer for complete details. Not resp. for typos. Offers expire 2/28/17.
Thoughts on this S90 advertised lease? They are advertising 499/month 499 due at signing (plus taxes, tags and doc fee). I'm in PA. Assuming the same sale price, what would total due at signing and final monthly payment be if I need 15k/year?'
VIN H1004640. Stk VOH0169. 4DR, 4-cylinder, 8-speed Automatic,mileage: 37 mi., air conditioning, power steering/ABS brakes/windows/locks/mirrors, cd/MP3, vision/climate/convenience package. MSRP: $59,205. $499 due at inception. $0 down + 1st mo pymt $499+ bank fee incl. + $0 sec dep. $19,461 ttl pymts/$30,194 residual. Prices include all costs to be paid by a consumer except for licensing, registration, taxes, and $299 doc. fee. Tier 1 credit approval thru primary lender. Lessee resp. for excess wear/tear. 10K mi. per yr/.25¢ per mi. over thereafter. See dealer for complete details. Not resp. for typos. Offers expire 2/28/17.
The difference between 10K per year and 15K is 3% of MSRP, or $1776.
I don't see a lease term mentioned.
On the surface, $499/mo + tax (9% in PA) is a decent payment on a $59K car.
Love your view on this MSRP is $65510 Discount $9950 Cost $55560 36 months 15k per year MF 00001 Residual 49% Cap cost reduction $3000 $1307.03 due up front which includes 1st payment, documentation fee, tax and registration fees $575.09 including tax per month I am in MA Thanks for any help, Jtmav
Love your view on this MSRP is $65510 Discount $9950 Cost $55560 36 months 15k per year MF 00001 Residual 49% Cap cost reduction $3000 $1307.03 due up front which includes 1st payment, documentation fee, tax and registration fees $575.09 including tax per month I am in MA Thanks for any help, Jtmav
Without the cap reduction, I get $693/mo with tax included; $605/mo with the cap reduction.
We don't recommend the cap reduction - that money would be lost if the car is stolen and totaled, and it masks the true cost of the lease.
This is momentum. Attached is the breakdown they provided. He said disregard the vehicle service cont.. that didn't seem to factor into their net sales price after adding it up
This is momentum. Attached is the breakdown they provided. He said disregard the vehicle service cont.. that didn't seem to factor into their net sales price after adding it up
I don't see the acquisition fee mentioned anywhere.
Good call. I also don't see it. I was able to attach the complete quote while cropping out my address.. other than the possible acquisition fee, does this look reasonable? Are there any other questions I should be asking? Thanks again for your help
Good call. I also don't see it. I was able to attach the complete quote while cropping out my address.. other than the possible acquisition fee, does this look reasonable? Are there any other questions I should be asking? Thanks again for your help
For 36/10, the lease numbers are .00025 and 53%.
With your prices, I get $770/mo with $0 down.
Politely tell the dealer you won't sign anything where the MF is marked up; they know what the base rate is.
Thank you! May I ask how you got to that number? I typed in those numbers into the Edmunds lease calculator and got $810 a month. Perhaps I entered it incorrectly?
Thank you! May I ask how you got to that number? I typed in those numbers into the Edmunds lease calculator and got $810 a month. Perhaps I entered it incorrectly?
I have a home-grown spreadsheet calculator; on-line calcs sometimes make assumptions we know nothing about.
Very helpful calculator! I used the numbers and plugged it into your spreadsheet and came up with $717 a month (with a 6.5% sales tax)... not sure where I made the mistake, but a bit off from your $770 figure.. learning so much from this, thank you!
MSRP $57,490.00 times residual value percentage 0.53 equals the residual value $30,469.70 negotgiated selling price of car $53,311.00 add in fees $644.00 add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $53,955.00 substract down payment/rebates 0 Adjusted capitalized cost $53,955.00 substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $23,485.30 divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $652.37 add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00025) $21.11 add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $673.48 multiply tax rate by pretax lease payment for total lease payment $717.25
Very helpful calculator! I used the numbers and plugged it into your spreadsheet and came up with $717 a month (with a 6.5% sales tax)... not sure where I made the mistake, but a bit off from your $770 figure.. learning so much from this, thank you!
MSRP $57,490.00 times residual value percentage 0.53 equals the residual value $30,469.70 negotgiated selling price of car $53,311.00 add in fees $644.00 add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $53,955.00 substract down payment/rebates 0 Adjusted capitalized cost $53,955.00 substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $23,485.30 divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $652.37 add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00025) $21.11 add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $673.48 multiply tax rate by pretax lease payment for total lease payment $717.25
I can't speak for what @michaell included in his calculations, but I agree with your math.
As noted above, the acquisition fee isn't accounted for, and the dealership hasn't disclosed the money factor they are using, either.
Very helpful calculator! I used the numbers and plugged it into your spreadsheet and came up with $717 a month (with a 6.5% sales tax)... not sure where I made the mistake, but a bit off from your $770 figure.. learning so much from this, thank you!
MSRP $57,490.00 times residual value percentage 0.53 equals the residual value $30,469.70 negotgiated selling price of car $53,311.00 add in fees $644.00 add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $53,955.00 substract down payment/rebates 0 Adjusted capitalized cost $53,955.00 substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $23,485.30 divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $652.37 add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00025) $21.11 add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $673.48 multiply tax rate by pretax lease payment for total lease payment $717.25
I can't speak for what @michaell included in his calculations, but I agree with your math.
As noted above, the acquisition fee isn't accounted for, and the dealership hasn't disclosed the money factor they are using, either.
Is the difference because in Texas taxes are paid on entire price and not monthly payment?
Very helpful calculator! I used the numbers and plugged it into your spreadsheet and came up with $717 a month (with a 6.5% sales tax)... not sure where I made the mistake, but a bit off from your $770 figure.. learning so much from this, thank you!
MSRP $57,490.00 times residual value percentage 0.53 equals the residual value $30,469.70 negotgiated selling price of car $53,311.00 add in fees $644.00 add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $53,955.00 substract down payment/rebates 0 Adjusted capitalized cost $53,955.00 substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $23,485.30 divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $652.37 add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00025) $21.11 add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $673.48 multiply tax rate by pretax lease payment for total lease payment $717.25
I can't speak for what @michaell included in his calculations, but I agree with your math.
As noted above, the acquisition fee isn't accounted for, and the dealership hasn't disclosed the money factor they are using, either.
Is the difference because in Texas taxes are paid on entire price and not monthly payment?
Ahh.... yes. Texas taxes the full selling price. Calculate that amount and add it to the CAP cost. Then leave out any other tax calculation.
As I wrote this, another local dealership emailed me offering 699 a month with 699 down (for the exact same vehicle), but claimed they couldn't release their MF or Residual.. I always thought that those numbers would be consistent with all dealerships, but I guess not.. thanks again!
As I wrote this, another local dealership emailed me offering 699 a month with 699 down (for the exact same vehicle), but claimed they couldn't release their MF or Residual.. I always thought that those numbers would be consistent with all dealerships, but I guess not.. thanks again!
Residuals will be consistent. Dealers can mark up the money factor for extra profit. But, if you are getting a better deal, then they aren't likely to have a markup
Hello, quick question on the MF for a S90 T6 Momentum with Vision & Convenience... is the MF listed anywhere on the Volvo website? I received the below deal from a dealership and the numbers add up, but their MF is .00079... from researching your previous posts, I thought it was .00025 (presuming dealership doesn't mark it up)... thank you!
MSRP $57,490.00 times residual value percentage 0.53 equals the residual value $30,469.70 negotgiated selling price of car $49,453.00 add in fees $644.00 add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $50,097.00 substract down payment/rebates 0 Adjusted capitalized cost $50,097.00 Adjusted cap cost with 6.5% sales tax $53,353.31 substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $22,883.61 divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $635.66 add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00079) $63.65 add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $699.30
Hello, quick question on the MF for a S90 T6 Momentum with Vision & Convenience... is the MF listed anywhere on the Volvo website? I received the below deal from a dealership and the numbers add up, but their MF is .00079... from researching your previous posts, I thought it was .00025 (presuming dealership doesn't mark it up)... thank you!
MSRP $57,490.00 times residual value percentage 0.53 equals the residual value $30,469.70 negotgiated selling price of car $49,453.00 add in fees $644.00 add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $50,097.00 substract down payment/rebates 0 Adjusted capitalized cost $50,097.00 Adjusted cap cost with 6.5% sales tax $53,353.31 substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $22,883.61 divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $635.66 add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00079) $63.65 add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $699.30
36 month MF on the T6 Momentum is indeed .00025 - dealer is marking it up for extra profit.
MF is confidential information - but, we're willing to share it with you.
First of all: I've leased SO MANY cars thanks to the help of this forum, so THANK YOU. Just leased an S90 last month for the wife, now working on another possible lease. Wanted to get an updated this month of MF and Residual for 24 and 36 months, 12k per year on T6 AWD Momentum and T6 AWD Inscription. Thanks in advance!
First of all: I've leased SO MANY cars thanks to the help of this forum, so THANK YOU. Just leased an S90 last month for the wife, now working on another possible lease. Wanted to get an updated this month of MF and Residual for 24 and 36 months, 12k per year on T6 AWD Momentum and T6 AWD Inscription. Thanks in advance!
MOM: .00025 MF and 59%/52% residual INSC: .00001 MF and 59%/51% residual
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24/30/39 month residuals for 10K miles are 61% / 58% / 52%. Subtract 1% for 12K. MF is the same for all terms
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Nope.
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Loyalty is a separate incentive from the lease bonus - they should combine.
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A T5 Inscription FWD 6 grand off MSRP which was in the 54500 range, 39 months, 12K miles, MF of 00026. Something like 635 a month including taxes.
They also gave me an offer of a T6 Inscription AWD, 9K off a 62,200 MSRP, of which 600 of the MSRP was for LoJac, I likely can refuse the Lojac and save an additional 600 bucks. That price was in the 650 range I believe.
Do these numbers sound like a deal? I surprised by the amount they are willing to take off which then has me concerned there is something I am missing. Sorry, lack of trust with the car industry
T6 is .00020 MF
Both models have a $2000 lease incentive.
Those are big discounts, but the residuals are down around 50%, so it takes a big discount to get a decent lease payment.
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T5 Inscription
MSRP - 57655
Sales Price 52000
With docs and varies other fees to include tax total cash price is 57107.
Residual is 29754
39 / 12K Lease is 709.05 per month including taxes.
the CA tax rate is 9.75.
does this seem like accurate numbers, and is it a fair deal?
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VIN H1004640. Stk VOH0169. 4DR, 4-cylinder, 8-speed Automatic,mileage: 37 mi., air conditioning, power steering/ABS brakes/windows/locks/mirrors, cd/MP3, vision/climate/convenience package. MSRP: $59,205. $499 due at inception. $0 down + 1st mo pymt $499+ bank fee incl. + $0 sec dep. $19,461 ttl pymts/$30,194 residual. Prices include all costs to be paid by a consumer except for licensing, registration, taxes, and $299 doc. fee. Tier 1 credit approval thru primary lender. Lessee resp. for excess wear/tear. 10K mi. per yr/.25¢ per mi. over thereafter. See dealer for complete details. Not resp. for typos. Offers expire 2/28/17.
I don't see a lease term mentioned.
On the surface, $499/mo + tax (9% in PA) is a decent payment on a $59K car.
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MSRP: 51,005
Sale Price: $43,500
36 mo/ 12,000 miles
8.75% tax
$494 a mo/ $1910 drive off.
Decent deal ?
With your prices, I get $505/mo with tax.
What does the $1910 cover?
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Seems pretty reasonable for a $51,000 car. And a decent discount.
Seems pretty reasonable for a $51,000 car. And a decent discount.
I agree with the discount. I would suggest rolling the acquisition fee into the payment.
Other than that, if you're comfortable with the discount from sticker, not much to complain about.
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MSRP is $65510
Discount $9950
Cost $55560
36 months
15k per year
MF 00001
Residual 49%
Cap cost reduction $3000
$1307.03 due up front which includes 1st payment, documentation fee, tax and registration fees
$575.09 including tax per month
I am in MA
Thanks for any help,
Jtmav
We don't recommend the cap reduction - that money would be lost if the car is stolen and totaled, and it masks the true cost of the lease.
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Msrp-$57,490
Discount-$4,179
selling price-$53,311
36 mo., 10k miles
$843 a month
I live in TX
seems quite high based on some of the other deals people have been getting on this board..
thank you!!
Ask the dealer what the adjusted cap cost, and how they got to that number from the selling price.
Is this the Momentum or Inscription trim?
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With your prices, I get $770/mo with $0 down.
Politely tell the dealer you won't sign anything where the MF is marked up; they know what the base rate is.
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MSRP $57,490.00
times residual value percentage 0.53
equals the residual value $30,469.70
negotgiated selling price of car $53,311.00
add in fees $644.00
add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $53,955.00
substract down payment/rebates 0
Adjusted capitalized cost $53,955.00
substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $23,485.30
divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $652.37
add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00025) $21.11
add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $673.48
multiply tax rate by pretax lease payment for total lease payment $717.25
As noted above, the acquisition fee isn't accounted for, and the dealership hasn't disclosed the money factor they are using, either.
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As I wrote this, another local dealership emailed me offering 699 a month with 699 down (for the exact same vehicle), but claimed they couldn't release their MF or Residual.. I always thought that those numbers would be consistent with all dealerships, but I guess not.. thanks again!
But, if you are getting a better deal, then they aren't likely to have a markup
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Your goal is to beat the TMV price for your zip code.
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MSRP $57,490.00
times residual value percentage 0.53
equals the residual value $30,469.70
negotgiated selling price of car $49,453.00
add in fees $644.00
add lines 4&5 gross capitalized c ost $50,097.00
substract down payment/rebates 0
Adjusted capitalized cost $50,097.00
Adjusted cap cost with 6.5% sales tax $53,353.31
substract residual value from adjusted cap cost $22,883.61
divide depcreciation amount by number of months in lease $635.66
add adjusted cap cost and residual value x money factor (.00079) $63.65
add the rent charge to base payment to get pretax lease payment $699.30
MF is confidential information - but, we're willing to share it with you.
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INSC: .00001 MF and 59%/51% residual
$2000 lease bonus
$3713 S90 T6 AWD and Vision pkg bonus
39 month terms are not better.
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T5 INSC - .00001 and 50%
T6 MOM - .00025 and 50%
T6 INSC - .00001 and 49%
$2000 Volvo allowance on T5
$2000 lease bonus for all
$3713 T6 Vision Package incentive
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Just so I'm reading that correctly, volvo is giving $7713 off for a T5 lease?
Do you know if these can be combined with thier "pull ahead" program as well?
Thanks!