Are Toyota dealerships supposed to give out the residual/MF to potential customers upon request?
I have asked 2 dealers and they refuse, and of course want me to "come in".
I'm in negotiation with a dealer for the XLE AWD in NYC. But before I take the deal, I'm trying to see if the February MF went down from .00062 so I can do a little better.
Are Toyota dealerships supposed to give out the residual/MF to potential customers upon request?
I have asked 2 dealers and they refuse, and of course want me to "come in".
I'm in negotiation with a dealer for the XLE AWD in NYC. But before I take the deal, I'm trying to see if the February MF went down from .00062 so I can do a little better.
They don't have to disclose the money factor, at all. Residuals have to be disclosed on the lease contract.
When they refuse to answer your questions, just tell them you'll go with another dealership.
Unfortunately, we don't have the NY programs for this month to give you the money factor. The residual is 62% for 36/15
Thanks, Michaell! Question, does the mf change from day to day or month to month? The dealer gave a mf of .00290 yesterday (Tier 1 credit), and today said it's .0087. We asked why it changed and his response was, "because we always carry 50 basis points in our rates, Toyota .0037 is Toyota's buy rate." Both rates seem very high and VERY different from the .00037 you mentioned above. Thanks for any help!
Thanks, Michaell! Question, does the mf change from day to day or month to month? The dealer gave a mf of .00290 yesterday (Tier 1 credit), and today said it's .0087. We asked why it changed and his response was, "because we always carry 50 basis points in our rates, Toyota .0037 is Toyota's buy rate." Both rates seem very high and VERY different from the .00037 you mentioned above. Thanks for any help!
No, it doesn't change day to day. Chances are, they didn't bother looking up the actual rate, yesterday.
I'm surprised they can even mark up a "special" rate. We haven't seen that from other Toyota dealers.
When you hear: "because we always carry 50 basis points in our rates You say, "I never pay money factor markups..." and, start walking towards the door...
HA! You're brilliant. The sales guy was a bit taken aback by that response. I just want to double check with you; however, that the mf is in fact .00037 and not .0037. He is saying I have it wrong and Toyota is .0037. Thanks, again, for all your help!
HA! You're brilliant. The sales guy was a bit taken aback by that response. I just want to double check with you; however, that the mf is in fact .00037 and not .0037. He is saying I have it wrong and Toyota is .0037. Thanks, again, for all your help!
.00037 is the correct MF. Not sure I'd trust the sales person when quoting finance information. I'd almost have a hard time believing the finance manager.
Is this a good deal: 2018 Highlander XLE AWD 36/12, with 2 years maintenance included. Purchasing in Colorado. MSRP: $41,974 Selling Price: $38,455 No down, only fees: Acquisition fee: $499 Dealer fee: $650 (is it normal to pay both?) Monthly payment - $375, which includes tax
Is this a good deal: 2018 Highlander XLE AWD 36/12, with 2 years maintenance included. Purchasing in Colorado. MSRP: $41,974 Selling Price: $38,455 No down, only fees: Acquisition fee: $499 Dealer fee: $650 (is it normal to pay both?) Monthly payment - $375, which includes tax
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.00037 MF and 64% residual You have the amounts mixed up. The acquisition fee is $650, and the dealer fee is likely $499. Dealer fees are just garbage fees. You should consider them an addition to the sale price. The acquisition fee is charged by the leasing bank. 2 years of maintenance is included with every new Toyota. That's not an extra cost thing for the dealer.
With those numbers, I get $346/mo.+tax, assuming all of the fees and first payment are paid upfront.
Northwest WA (Seattle area) is offering 2018 Highlander AWD XLE's for $299 per month on a 36 /12 lease with $3,800 down. The ad doesn't list the money factor.
Can you tell me the current MF and residual for the area and should I be able to apply that to any Highlander I want to lease, or is it specific to the specific outlined in the ads?
Does it make sense to take the advertised special, or can one generally do better by negotiating as if they are buying and then after the price is agreed then switching to the lease and plugging that number in? Thank you.
Northwest WA (Seattle area) is offering 2018 Highlander AWD XLE's for $299 per month on a 36 /12 lease with $3,800 down. The ad doesn't list the money factor.
Can you tell me the current MF and residual for the area and should I be able to apply that to any Highlander I want to lease, or is it specific to the specific outlined in the ads?
Does it make sense to take the advertised special, or can one generally do better by negotiating as if they are buying and then after the price is agreed then switching to the lease and plugging that number in? Thank you.
64% and .00062 for 36/12 on XLE AWD
Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
You should be able to improve on that deal, but understand that the $3800 down effectively adds $100/mo to your payment, so the true cost is $399/mo. I'd say that is only an adequate deal.
Northwest WA (Seattle area) is offering 2018 Highlander AWD XLE's for $299 per month on a 36 /12 lease with $3,800 down. The ad doesn't list the money factor.
I'm not sure if it's ok for me to comment on this, but putting a down payment on a lease is not very smart. If the car gets totaled or stolen, the insurance (and GAP) will pay off the money owed on it, but your down payment is not returned to you.
I'd rather (and I have done this before) take one of those "$3,500 down and 299/month" offers and had the dealer turn them into "0 down and 399/month". With the money factor so low, your not saving much by putting down a down payment, but you are risking that money if the car gets written off.
Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
The local dealer said the promotional lease rate would not apply to any hybrid Highlanders, only gas ones? How do I know if this is true based on your comment above?
Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
The local dealer said the promotional lease rate would not apply to any hybrid Highlanders, only gas ones? How do I know if this is true based on your comment above?
The residual is different, base on trim or drive (FWD vs. AWD). Not sure I'd believe everything your dealer is telling you.
Dealer reserves the right to exclude anything they want - these aren't TFS promotions, but the dealer's.
Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
The local dealer said the promotional lease rate would not apply to any hybrid Highlanders, only gas ones? How do I know if this is true based on your comment above?
Entirely possible that the Hybrid has different money factors. We don't show a rate for the Hybrid model for your region, which makes me think the dealer may be correct.
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Do you already have the money factor for February for NY region? If not, when do you expect it? TY
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Not sure if we will get it, or not.
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Add 6% for 24/12
We don't show a discounted MF for the Highlander in your region, so .00225 MF
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I have asked 2 dealers and they refuse, and of course want me to "come in".
I'm in negotiation with a dealer for the XLE AWD in NYC. But before I take the deal, I'm trying to see if the February MF went down from .00062 so I can do a little better.
Residuals have to be disclosed on the lease contract.
When they refuse to answer your questions, just tell them you'll go with another dealership.
Unfortunately, we don't have the NY programs for this month to give you the money factor.
The residual is 62% for 36/15
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MF matched 0.00062 that you guys posted last month. He says my January MF is locked in and if Feb is better, he'll adjust it.
That's no guarantee for your region, though.
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Thanks for any help!
I'm surprised they can even mark up a "special" rate. We haven't seen that from other Toyota dealers.
When you hear: "because we always carry 50 basis points in our rates
You say, "I never pay money factor markups..." and, start walking towards the door...
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.00225 MF
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MSRP: $41,974
Selling Price: $38,455
No down, only fees:
Acquisition fee: $499
Dealer fee: $650
(is it normal to pay both?)
Monthly payment - $375, which includes tax
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You have the amounts mixed up. The acquisition fee is $650, and the dealer fee is likely $499.
Dealer fees are just garbage fees. You should consider them an addition to the sale price.
The acquisition fee is charged by the leasing bank.
2 years of maintenance is included with every new Toyota. That's not an extra cost thing for the dealer.
With those numbers, I get $346/mo.+tax, assuming all of the fees and first payment are paid upfront.
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36/12 39/12 thank you!
.00036 MF and 65%/64% residual for SE/XLE
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Can you tell me the current MF and residual for the area and should I be able to apply that to any Highlander I want to lease, or is it specific to the specific outlined in the ads?
Does it make sense to take the advertised special, or can one generally do better by negotiating as if they are buying and then after the price is agreed then switching to the lease and plugging that number in?
Thank you.
Same numbers for all of New England
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Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
You should be able to improve on that deal, but understand that the $3800 down effectively adds $100/mo to your payment, so the true cost is $399/mo. I'd say that is only an adequate deal.
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I'd rather (and I have done this before) take one of those "$3,500 down and 299/month" offers and had the dealer turn them into "0 down and 399/month". With the money factor so low, your not saving much by putting down a down payment, but you are risking that money if the car gets written off.
MSRP $47,735
Total net cost $44,978.15
Fees included
$650 acq few
$135 licence fees
$385 doc fees
$518.15 driveoff cost
60% residual
0.000460 money factor
Net residual $ 28,641
36 months
12k per year
$518.15 includes 6.25 mass tax
If you're comfortable with the discount from sticker, all looks good.
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The special low money factor is only for 36 month leases.
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Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
The local dealer said the promotional lease rate would not apply to any hybrid Highlanders, only gas ones? How do I know if this is true based on your comment above?
Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
The local dealer said the promotional lease rate would not apply to any hybrid Highlanders, only gas ones? How do I know if this is true based on your comment above?
The residual is different, base on trim or drive (FWD vs. AWD). Not sure I'd believe everything your dealer is telling you.
Dealer reserves the right to exclude anything they want - these aren't TFS promotions, but the dealer's.
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We don't have the regional numbers for NJ, but other regions show a range of .00036 to .00225
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Those numbers are good for any Highlander, this month
The local dealer said the promotional lease rate would not apply to any hybrid Highlanders, only gas ones? How do I know if this is true based on your comment above?
Entirely possible that the Hybrid has different money factors.
We don't show a rate for the Hybrid model for your region, which makes me think the dealer may be correct.
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